Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #672 on: June 18, 2018, 04:22:57 AM »
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That's right. And you said No. You were wrong.

Why only bold that part?

Particularly if it's a non-fungible item. If the defense has something concrete to present to the jury once the evidence has been admitted then fine. However, they will not be allowed free reign to spout unsupported claims against the evidence. Not in any properly run court anyway.

You're right. It is a bit difficult for me to understand. Post the transcript. That should help.

Post the transcript. That should help.

I seriously doubt it would.

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Offline Matt Grantham

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« Reply #673 on: June 18, 2018, 04:23:09 AM »
As usual pardon my ignorance

 From Rob Caprio

On June 15, 1964, the same cartridge cases designated C47-C50, were shown by Special Agent Bardwell D. Odum to Pete Barnes, an officer of the Dallas Police Department assigned to the Crime Laboratory, and he identified his marking on two of two of these cases, which also bear the markings ?Q-74? and ?Q-77?

 So these are the shells that Poe claimed to have received from Benavides and Poe sort of claimed to have initialed and are now being claimed by Odum to have been marked by himself? I thought I saw Odum received, or picked up, one of the Davis sister shells after that Sister located them for the officers some time after originally telling the officers of their approximate locations?  Odum assisted in finding the other Davis sister shell? And Doughity the other? No officer was apparently able to find any of these shells without being directed to them or being picked up by the witnesses

Offline Howard Gee

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« Reply #674 on: June 18, 2018, 02:52:50 PM »
As I said, Herbert Blenner made a lot of oddball claims and was generally ignored by most here, when not made sport of.

Was Blenner the whacko who claimed it wasn't Oswald being placed in the ambulance based on his nostrils ?

Or was that another nut ?

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Online Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #675 on: June 18, 2018, 06:21:43 PM »
Exactly.

Poe and Barnes, before the commission, under oath, were kind enough to mistakenly pick Q-75 that you claimed was "readily identifiable".

But you just made that up, didn't you?

Barnes said "I believe it was Q-74 and Q-75". "I believe" is not a positive identification. Poe said that he wanted to say that Q-77 and Q-75 were his but he couldn't swear to it. He could not find his mark on either of them and he couldn't swear that he had ever marked either of the shells that he received from Benevides. Q-75 was not readily identifiable to Barnes or Poe because neither of them had marked it. Q-75 was readily identifiable to Dhority because he had made it so by placing his mark on it.

Online Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #676 on: June 18, 2018, 06:23:28 PM »
Cut the BS, Tim.

List the marks.

Put up or shut up.

Why should I have to list the marks?

I don't know what Dhority's mark looks like because I've never seen it. But you can be sure that Dhority could recognize his own mark. I've seen Doughty's mark on a number of items. They are not always identical. They differ a bit, depending on what type of material they are on and the size of the marking. Doughty's mark on the inside rim of Q-76 would look very much like the following. Though much smaller of course.


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Offline Matt Grantham

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« Reply #677 on: June 18, 2018, 11:57:49 PM »
Just so everyone knows Todd is playing games. Automatic shells and revolver shells look differently and are marked differently. Todd must be saying that Hill was majorly incompetent to confuse the two.

 If I understand Hill's history with his own statements

 He calls in at 1.40 and reprts automatic shells

Denies this at the WC

30 tears later says he did find the automatic shells

 My opinion is that does not make his story completely untenable since a lot of folks tended to change their initial stories for the WC

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« Reply #678 on: June 19, 2018, 12:14:50 AM »
Just so everyone knows Todd is playing games. Automatic shells and revolver shells look differently and are marked differently. Todd must be saying that Hill was majorly incompetent to confuse the two.

Well, at least we know that Mr Caprio doesn't know much about firearms or ammunition. And, no, Rob, you simply have no idea, no matter what you may tell yourself.

It doesn't matter what kind of gun you think a particular cartridge is used for. There are automatic pistols that fire "revolver" ammunition, and revolvers that fire "automatic" ammunition. I've even given you specific examples of semiautomatic weapons that come from the factory chambered to fire .38 special, .44 magnum, etc.  That seemed to fall into Rob's memory hole in no time, flat.




Online Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #679 on: June 19, 2018, 01:27:26 AM »
Well, at least we know that Mr Caprio doesn't know much about firearms or ammunition.

He doesn't know much about the Constitution either. In fact, he's pathetically ignorant about most things.

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« Reply #679 on: June 19, 2018, 01:27:26 AM »