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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #304 on: February 14, 2024, 10:15:16 AM »
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And yet that light zone is in front of JFK's shoulder:





I already explained how the starburst effect is caused by the aperture in the camera. And even that isn’t apparent in some of the available copies of Altgens 6.

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #304 on: February 14, 2024, 10:15:16 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #305 on: February 14, 2024, 10:40:48 AM »
The Muchmore frame on the left is 2 frames after the headshot and the right frame is the next frame after, which shows the crack.



The Muchmore frame before the headshot.



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This first frame is Zapruder 255 which is Altgens 6 and thereafter are the next sequential frames.

Spot the crack?







These frames come from the "JFK Assassination Research Photo Gallery" link at the top of the page.

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« Last Edit: February 14, 2024, 11:16:21 AM by John Mytton »

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #306 on: February 14, 2024, 11:27:54 AM »
The Muchmore frame on the left is 2 frames after the headshot and the right frame is the next frame after, which shows the crack.



The Muchmore frame before the headshot.



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This first frame is Zapruder 255 which is Altgens 6 and thereafter are the next sequential frames.

Spot the crack?







These frames come from the "JFK Assassination Research Photo Gallery" link at the top of the page.

JohnM

Excellent post John! What do you think we are seeing lower down on the windshield in the Zapruder frames? Is that a reflection of the sun?

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #307 on: February 14, 2024, 12:21:47 PM »
The Muchmore frame on the left is 2 frames after the headshot and the right frame is the next frame after, which shows the crack.

I see what you are getting a John but what you show is an impossibility due to the different angles/perspectives of the limo in the two pictures.
If you want that dot in the Muchmore frame to be the bullet impact, we should see it practically touching the rear view mirror or even fusing with it - if we follow the actual position of it in Altgens 7:




The Zapruder frames don't have the definition to see the crack (neither does the Muchmore for that matter).
« Last Edit: February 14, 2024, 12:23:13 PM by Jim Hawthorn »

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #308 on: February 14, 2024, 01:10:08 PM »
I see what you are getting a John but what you show is an impossibility due to the different angles/perspectives of the limo in the two pictures.
If you want that dot in the Muchmore frame to be the bullet impact, we should see it practically touching the rear view mirror or even fusing with it - if we follow the actual position of it in Altgens 7:




The Zapruder frames don't have the definition to see the crack (neither does the Muchmore for that matter).

If the white dot is something on the grass behind then can you point it out in these other frames?






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If you want that dot in the Muchmore frame to be the bullet impact, we should see it practically touching the rear view mirror or even fusing with it - if we follow the actual position of it in Altgens 7:

How can make that conclusion by drawing 2 dimensional lines on a 2 dimensional photo? The rear view mirror isn't sitting flush on the windscreen.

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The Zapruder frames don't have the definition to see the crack (neither does the Muchmore for that matter).

There's a multitude of visible objects in the Zapruder frames which are smaller than the size of your crack and if the sun light was lighting up the many angled crack with the intensity of what you claim in Altgens6 and what we can all see in Altgens7 then why wouldn't we see it?

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« Last Edit: February 14, 2024, 01:18:43 PM by John Mytton »

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #309 on: February 14, 2024, 02:17:39 PM »
If the white dot is something on the grass behind then can you point it out in these other frames?
How can make that conclusion by drawing 2 dimensional lines on a 2 dimensional photo? The rear view mirror isn't sitting flush on the windscreen.

There's a multitude of visible objects in the Zapruder frames which are smaller than the size of your crack and if the sun light was lighting up the many angled crack with the intensity of what you claim in Altgens6 and what we can all see in Altgens7 then why wouldn't we see it?

Well spotted John. OK, you've convinced me. Thumb1:

However, that white shape in Altgens 6 will still haunt me!   :'(

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #310 on: February 14, 2024, 04:24:04 PM »
If the white dot is something on the grass behind then can you point it out in these other frames?






How can make that conclusion by drawing 2 dimensional lines on a 2 dimensional photo? The rear view mirror isn't sitting flush on the windscreen.

There's a multitude of visible objects in the Zapruder frames which are smaller than the size of your crack and if the sun light was lighting up the many angled crack with the intensity of what you claim in Altgens6 and what we can all see in Altgens7 then why wouldn't we see it?

JohnM

    You guys are focusing on a "mirror" while missing the obvious. NONE of those 3 guys standing on The Steps is wearing Only a WHITE SHIRT. The NIX Film clearly shows a White Shirt Man moving UP-The-Steps. You need to always be looking at assassination images with a 360 Degree Visual/Mental Focus. You are being hoodwinked into wearing "blinders". Avoid being David Copperfield'd.

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« Reply #311 on: February 14, 2024, 07:27:24 PM »
    You guys are focusing on a "mirror" while missing the obvious. NONE of those 3 guys standing on The Steps is wearing Only a WHITE SHIRT. The NIX Film clearly shows a White Shirt Man moving UP-The-Steps. You need to always be looking at assassination images with a 360 Degree Visual/Mental Focus. You are being hoodwinked into wearing "blinders". Avoid being David Copperfield'd.

That is a different subject Royell. Can you direct me to the thread which discusses it please?