Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo

[Andrew Mason]

There was mirror slant at Love Field before the motorcade began that equals that in the Parkland picture.

Thanks for posting these Jerry.  Where did you find that Love Field photo?  I have been searching for that kind of view from Love Field.

I don't necessarily agree that the mirror hasn't moved between Altgens #6 and Altgens #7.  But your photos do show that the windshield frame damage was not there at Love Field:

Here is the detail of the damage at Parkland:


But the same location shows no damage at Love Field prior to the motorcade departing:


That certainly rebuts the suggestion made by SA Gies in the Rowley letter that the damage may have occurred before Nov 22/63!

[John Mytton]

Hi Jim, nice graphic, the left side and bottom border are clearly defined by the edge of the mirror(which in your graphic was a little fudged) and the top of Kennedy's jacket.





JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

Hi Jim, nice graphic, the left side and bottom border are clearly defined by the edge of the mirror(which in your graphic was a little fudged) and the top of Kennedy's jacket.





JohnM

Hi John, I get that but a better quality image reveals what is going on there:



Look at the light rays bouncing off the shattered glass. That phenomenon simply wouldn't be happening if it was just a glimpse of a white bag.

[Jim Hawthorn]

Look at this too. You can plainly see that the fracture is in front of Kennedy here:

[John Mytton]

Look at this too. You can plainly see that the fracture is in front of Kennedy here:

Thanks Jim for this higher res crop because now it's even more clear that the edge of the mirror is in front of the lighter object behind.





JohnM

[Jim Hawthorn]

Thanks Jim for this higher res crop because now it's even more clear that the edge of the mirror is in front of the lighter object behind.

The mirror is obviously in front of what we see of the woman's bag! The bullet impact is in the same visual zone and it's reflections/refractions of light are sparkling out, in front of the edge of the mirror.

This (scoop) is proof of another bullet having been fired at about the same time as the neck shot. If it had been fired before that (say, a ricochet from Oswald's missed shot?) the agents in the front of the car would have reacted right away and gone into flee mode.

[Jerry Organ]

An approximate recreation of sight-lines. The disc in the 3D model representing the windshield damage is unchanged between the garage and Altgens views. The disc physically "sits" on the surface of the model's windshield. The "Spiral Nebula" shape does not correspond to the windshield damage area.

[Jim Hawthorn]

An approximate recreation of sight-lines. The disc in the 3D model representing the windshield damage is unchanged between the garage and Altgens views. The disc physically "sits" on the surface of the model's windshield. The "Spiral Nebula" shape does not correspond to the windshield damage area.

Nice diagram Jerry but could you do it again with the rear view mirror at the correct width? In your diagram, it's conveniently smaller that it was in reality.
You will then see that the bullet impact line up perfectly.