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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1384 on: February 26, 2019, 03:31:42 PM »
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But the Hosty notes reveal more than just a claim by Mr Oswald to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade". They also show that a confirmation of the post-shooting 2nd fl lunchroom incident with Officer Baker was put in Mr Oswald's mouth after his death. This is as much of a smoking gun as the suppression of Mr Oswald's "P. Parade" claim, for it shows how central the lunchroom fiction became to depriving Mr Oswald of his alibi.

      The recently discovered Hosty Notes are a Hard Cold FACT that can be Held/Touched. They are Reality. Your conclusions are Conjecture.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #1385 on: February 26, 2019, 03:37:04 PM »
There doesn't need to be a photo of Oswald at the window as the stack of evidence of his guilt towers over his lies of innocence. You though sure as hell need a photo of him on the steps. At the moment all there is to see is a blob.

There doesn't need to be a photo of Oswald at the window as the stack of evidence of his guilt towers over his lies of innocence.

So even though a photo shows that there was nobody firing a rifle from the sixth floor window at the time of the murder.... You insist that your boogie man the arch villain Lee Harrrrrrvey Osssssswald Boooooo Hisssss was there and committed the murder with a rusty old rifle that had the scope mounted sidewise....

Is that what you believe Howsley?

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1386 on: February 26, 2019, 04:12:32 PM »
      The recently discovered Hosty Notes are a Hard Cold FACT that can be Held/Touched. They are Reality. Your conclusions are Conjecture.

It is not conjecture that two of Mr Oswald's most important claims in that first interrogation
-----------pre-motorcade visit to 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke
-----------going outside to watch motorcade
were suppressed. This Hosty draft report makes it a cold hard fact.

Now! That double claim from Mr Oswald rules out his having also claimed to have made a visit to the 2nd fl lunchroom immediately after the shooting to buy a second coke.

Now! If the post-motorcade incident which Mr Oswald did not confirm had actually happened, why would Mr Oswald's disavowal of that incident have needed to be suppressed? This is the question which those trying to dismiss the significance of the Hosty notes (you are not one of them) cannot offer any rational answer to.

I would also remind you that the bombshell contents of this Hosty draft interrogation report
-----------pre-motorcade visit to 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke
-----------going outside to watch motorcade
were predicted with full accuracy by those who have been pressing the case that the 2nd fl lunchroom incident never happened.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #1387 on: February 26, 2019, 04:19:33 PM »
      The recently discovered Hosty Notes are a Hard Cold FACT that can be Held/Touched. They are Reality. Your conclusions are Conjecture.

Do you mean the recently discovered BOOKHOUT notes?

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« Reply #1388 on: February 26, 2019, 04:49:40 PM »
It is not conjecture that two of Mr Oswald's most important claims in that first interrogation
-----------pre-motorcade visit to 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke
-----------going outside to watch motorcade
were suppressed. This Hosty draft report makes it a cold hard fact.

Now! That double claim from Mr Oswald rules out his having also claimed to have made a visit to the 2nd fl lunchroom immediately after the shooting to buy a second coke.

Now! If the post-motorcade incident which Mr Oswald did not confirm had actually happened, why would Mr Oswald's disavowal of that incident have needed to be suppressed? This is the question which those trying to dismiss the significance of the Hosty notes (you are not one of them) cannot offer any rational answer to.

I would also remind you that the bombshell contents of this Hosty draft interrogation report
-----------pre-motorcade visit to 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke
-----------going outside to watch motorcade
were predicted with full accuracy by those who have been pressing the case that the 2nd fl lunchroom incident never happened.

This predictive success was no accident!  Do not confuse 'conjecture' with 'logical inference'! Thumb1:

     I find the recently discovered Hosty Notes to be ground breaking. We frequently hear that after 55+ years there is No New Evidence out there to shed New Light on this unsolved murder. But here we have written in long hand the notes of someone that was front-n-center at Oswald's very 1st interrogation. With there being scant evidence of what was asked and answered at Any of the Oswald interrogations, these Hosty Notes of Oswald's very 1st Q/A can Not be over stated.
     I too have my doubts as to the alleged Baker/Oswald Lunch Room encounter, but my doubts are founded on the alleged itinerary of Oswald. His coming down that rickety stairwell from the 6th Floor, (not being heard by Baker), exiting the stairwell, cutting across the floor in order to enter the vestibule which permits Oswald to enter the Lunch Room do not fit the actions of an assassin on-the-run. That vestibule also has a door inside it which grants access to a hallway. That hallway leads to the short stairway which empties down onto the 1st floor within feet of the TSBD front door. Taking that hallway off the vestibule and staying on the move in the direction of a hasty exit makes far more sense than cornering one's self Inside a lunch room. 
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1389 on: February 26, 2019, 06:41:55 PM »
There doesn't need to be a photo of Oswald at the window as the stack of evidence of his guilt towers over his lies of innocence. You though sure as hell need a photo of him on the steps. At the moment all there is to see is a blob.

Leaving aside all the speculative assumptions that have to be made to come close to some kind of plausibe narrative, please tell us what exactly is this "stack of evidence of his guilt".

It would be nice if at least one LN would support such a bold claim rather than just claiming it.

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1390 on: February 26, 2019, 07:41:32 PM »
Indeed.  ???



"Indeed", and absolutely, there is nothing reliable to conclude PrayerPersonImage as representing any male, much less AccusedLoneGunmanAssassin LeeHarveyOswald.

I do conclude that the provided film frame/still indicates PrayerWomanImage to be in the corner, but with a head turn towards her right as if looking towards GloriaCalveryImage on the stairs, who as evidence indicates, as she is approaching/entering the stairs/landing, is 'announcing' to other stairs/landing occupants what she had just witnesses seconds earlier.


However, when viewing the actual DarnellFilm, PrayerWomanImage appears to be turning her head either towards, or away from BuellWesleyFrazier as if confirming what MsCalvery had just 'announced'.

And, the SarahDeanStantonImage face image insertion appears close to the as shown PrayerWomanImage head turn angle.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #1391 on: February 26, 2019, 09:59:28 PM »
Apparently Dirty Harvey watched the parade, alright.
Well, at least until he was satisfied with what he saw.
Or so I hear...

As someone said elsewhere he watched the parade through iron sights.

Why is it that Lone Nutters can only contribute to a discussion by saying "Oswald did it" over and over again?