Prayer Woman

[Ray Mitcham]

Another case of the stoopids from Brian! There is simply no way that 'clear shadow' originates from the edge of the west wall. It's because of this thing called an, uh, angle?

Riddle us this, Brian. How come the 'clear shadow' on Lovelady is vertical in one of these frames but slanted in the other? Did the portal you say cast the shadow tilt? Was there an earthquake? 

Alan, he doesn't realise (or won't) that the vertical shadow is caused by the left wall of the entrance, and the other by the lintel over the entrance.

[Alan Ford]

Alan, he doesn't realise (or won't) that the vertical shadow is caused by the left wall of the entrance, and the other by the lintel over the entrance.

Mr Mitcham, poor Brian just sees what he wants to see and throws a tantrum when the facts answer back!

Re: the 'shadow' on Lovelady. Surely the sun is simply too far east for the left wall of the entrance to be casting any shadow on Lovelady? Stancak's model of the doorway would have to be catastrophically off...



And how would the horizontal lintel over the entrance cast a near-vertical shadow?

[Ray Mitcham]

Tell us oh wise one. What angle was shadow that the sun was casting on the steps at 1.30p.m. on 11.22.1963?

Bump.

[Ray Mitcham]

Mr Mitcham, poor Brian just sees what he wants to see and throws a tantrum when the facts answer back!

Re: the 'shadow' on Lovelady. Surely the sun is simply too far east for the left wall of the entrance to be casting any shadow on Lovelady? Stancak's model of the doorway would have to be catastrophically off...



And how would the horizontal lintel over the entrance cast a near-vertical shadow?

It wouldn't Alan. If Frazier was standing full on to the parade, the shadow shown on him would be horizontal. Because he is turning slightly to his right the shadow is at an angle, and is caused by the lintel of the entrance.

[Ray Mitcham]

Tell us, oh, wise one. What angle was shadow that the sun was casting on the steps at 1.30p.m. on 11.22.1963?

bump.

[Alan Ford]

It wouldn't Alan. If Frazier was standing full on to the parade, the shadow shown on him would be horizontal. Because he is turning slightly to his right the shadow is at an angle, and is caused by the lintel of the entrance.

Ray, we see the lintel shadow on Frazier in Darnell. It looks nothing like the vertical or off-vertical 'shadow' down Lovelady's shirt in either of the Wiegman frames

[Ray Mitcham]

Ray, we see the lintel shadow on Frazier in Darnell. It looks nothing like the vertical or off-vertical 'shadow' on Lovelady in either of the Wiegman frames

Agreed, but the shadow on Frazier, I believe, is caused by the left wall of the entrance. The first photo shows a vertical shadow and the second a slightly angled shadow. The reason for the difference in  both Darnell photos is that in the second, Frazier is leaning slightly backwards, probably to see better, what was happening further down the street.