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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #259 on: June 26, 2018, 09:04:13 PM »
Sorry for the lame Altgens crop btw, just came to hand quickest, y'all know it and where to get better.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #260 on: June 26, 2018, 09:21:01 PM »

The sketch below shows the entrance I was working to and the thick black line shows the line of the shadow at 12.30.


Ray, do you believe Billy was as far east as he could get in Wiegman without crossing the central rail?
I do, so it's not adding up for me but I still think you and Andrej have the shadow line correct fwiw.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #261 on: June 26, 2018, 09:37:32 PM »
Just a word on the Hughes "Lovelady" Alan.
You need to see the cropped, zoomed in version of it. I have an idea where I saw it last.
Also since I promised you, I only have this which you probably have already seen, but I liked that's why...

Arrows aren't mine, I think it cleans up the frame a little rather than distort it but my opinion... and I'm not going to convince you with this alone but it looks to me(or did) like "his" right arm is away from the body. Frazier's arms in the same footage are clearly folded, they have that recognisable form but PM, not so much.


I've seen other versions of this where the person got similar results, so I'm not sure yet if it's bare arm or shirt but we can all see what the results suggest.

Ah, thanks for this, Barry! It's an ambiguous image, at least as suggestive of folded arms as of PrayerMan arms IMHO:



If folded arms, the phantom left arm I've cropped out above could even be something Roy Edward Lewis is holding as he stands behind the glass door...




If Prayer Man just kept his hands in the 'prayer' position, then how come
---------his RIGHT elbow in Wiegman is lower than in Darnell?
---------his LEFT elbow in Wiegman is a lot lower than 'it' is in Darnell?



The relationship between these two images suggests to me that that's not his left elbow in Darnell at all!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #262 on: June 26, 2018, 09:48:18 PM »
Here's Lovelady at 12.30pm:



Here are some images from a little later in the day, when the sun has moved west, LENGTHENING the shadow cast by the west pillar. And yet, if we look at the Lovelady stand-ins...



===> NO SHADOW!


===> NO SHADOW!

 
===> NO SHADOW!

Was the sun dancing at 12.30 that day?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #263 on: June 26, 2018, 10:11:36 PM »


Why do we see no shadow on Lower Lovelady's face? Why does the 'shadow' move down with him a step?

Ain't no shadow, folks!  Walk:

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #264 on: June 26, 2018, 10:13:46 PM »
Nice presentation of those images Alan thanks.
Also yes I can finally see the right hand as an elbow now if I want to.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #265 on: June 26, 2018, 10:14:47 PM »
Nice presentation of those images Alan thanks.
Also yes I can finally see the right hand as an elbow now if I want to.

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