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Online Lance Payette

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« Reply #91 on: Today at 03:21:55 PM »
Ann Donaldson said there were three shots in her Sixth Floor Oral History - the relevant parts are around the 20:00 minute mark.  She said there was a loud noise - the first shot - and then two more shots. 

You shouldn't believe everything you read in newspapers. Sometimes reporters get things wrong.
But as even the WC noted, and as Jack analyzes in Phantom Shot, witnesses tend to evolve in the direction of the "accepted narrative" - sometimes within mere hours or days. By the time of the Sixth Floor Museum interviews, witnesses may have convinced themselves that the "accepted narrative" is what they actually experienced.

I also find it kind of bizarre that anyone would call Nellie Connally's credibility into question for saying JFK clutched at his throat. To any real-world observer who isn't analyzing enhanced Z-film frames with a magnifying glass, that's exactly what it looks like. The Connallys strike me as fantastic witnesses.
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Online John Corbett

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« Reply #92 on: Today at 03:26:09 PM »
I doubt all the witnesses agree on what the accepted narrative is.

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« Reply #93 on: Today at 03:29:46 PM »
   In addition to the position of JFK's hands, this clear still frame displays how cramped Gov Connally was in that jump seat. No MAN normally holds their Stetson Hat like a woman clutching a baby to her chest. The dipping of the (R) shoulder is being done to permit Connally making his (R) turnaround in these very cramped conditions. There is extremely little space between the Jump Seat and the side of the car. This was made obvious when Connally was seated in the JFK Limo at Love Field. They had to be careful when closing that rear passenger door and Not banging Connally's (R) leg with that door. In order to turn and face JFK in the backseat behind him, Connally had to manipulate his (R) Arm to make that turn around. The dipping of the (R) shoulder permitted Connally to turn around and face JFK.   

What you are seeing is JBC flipping his arm upward in an involuntary reflexive response to being shot in the wrist. That up and down arm flip began at Z226 and lasted 9 frames. It is the strongest indication we have of the validity of the SBT as it shows JFK and JBC reacting reflexively at the same instant.

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« Reply #94 on: Today at 03:31:01 PM »
I doubt all the witnesses agree on what the accepted narrative is.

In this instance, the accepted narrative is obviously three shots. Two-shot witnesses tend to "get with the program." Not inevitably, but very often. This is especially likely to be true when all that is required to get with the program is to accept a noise that sounded sorta-kinda like a shot but didn't hit anything.

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« Reply #95 on: Today at 04:25:24 PM »
What you are seeing is JBC flipping his arm upward in an involuntary reflexive response to being shot in the wrist. That up and down arm flip began at Z226 and lasted 9 frames. It is the strongest indication we have of the validity of the SBT as it shows JFK and JBC reacting reflexively at the same instant.

  Are you claiming that Gov Connally did Not turn around a look at JFK face-to-face? How could Connally do that without moving his (R) arm? This is what we are seeing with respect to the (R) arm. Connally is turning around, while seated, in a very confined space

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« Reply #96 on: Today at 05:18:53 PM »
  Are you claiming that Gov Connally did Not turn around a look at JFK face-to-face? How could Connally do that without moving his (R) arm? This is what we are seeing with respect to the (R) arm. Connally is turning around, while seated, in a very confined space

Is that what you took from what I wrote? JBC didn't turn around and face JFK until more than two seconds after he was shot. The flipping of his right arm was almost immediate. It happened less than 1/4 second after he was hit.

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« Reply #97 on: Today at 06:49:22 PM »
Is that what you took from what I wrote? JBC didn't turn around and face JFK until more than two seconds after he was shot. The flipping of his right arm was almost immediate. It happened less than 1/4 second after he was hit.

   What you are describing probably qualifies for the Guinness World Record, "Longest Delayed Reaction To Multiple Major Injuries".

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