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« Reply #84 on: Yesterday at 08:23:10 PM »
Thank you for that. We see that Jack Kennedy is clearly hit and JC is looking forward, in no discomfort and still holding his hat in his right hand. That ties with the testimony of Nell and John Connally quite well when they said JC was hit two seconds after Kennedy.

I guess you didn't notice he is in the process of flipping his injured right arm upward, a motion he began at exactly the same frame JFK's arms started moving upward, frame Z226. The reacted at the same time because they were shot at the same time. Well, a couple milliseconds apart. Close enough.

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« Reply #85 on: Yesterday at 09:03:13 PM »
Hi James,

 My  Z frames are from the MPI DVD, I just brightened them up a little. 
I hope this frame 230 is what you need.


Best regards,
 Steve

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Steve could you post one more frame from the MPI set. That would be frame Z325 if you would please. That will be the last frame I promise.
Thanks...James

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« Reply #86 on: Yesterday at 10:09:09 PM »
Steve could you post one more frame from the MPI set. That would be frame Z325 if you would please. That will be the last frame I promise.
Thanks...James

It would be more valuable to post Z223-Z226. Comparing Z223 to Z224 shows the moment JBC's jacket bulged out from the bullet that exited from just below his right nipple. Comparing Z224 to Z225 shows that his right arm was still moving down at the time he came into full view from behind the sign. Comparing Z225 to Z226 shows that JFK's arms started upward at frame Z226 and also show that JBC's right arm started upward at the same time.

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« Reply #87 on: Yesterday at 10:18:11 PM »
Ann Donaldson, Woodward's roommate, clears up Woodward's confusion. She states there were only two shots. Just like the majority of the other eyewitnesses. Brown and Alonzo must have agreed.
Ann Donaldson said there were three shots in her Sixth Floor Oral History - the relevant parts are around the 20:00 minute mark.  She said there was a loud noise - the first shot - and then two more shots. 

You shouldn't believe everything you read in newspapers. Sometimes reporters get things wrong.

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« Reply #88 on: Yesterday at 10:22:40 PM »
I guess you didn't notice he is in the process of flipping his injured right arm upward, a motion he began at exactly the same frame JFK's arms started moving upward, frame Z226. The reacted at the same time because they were shot at the same time. Well, a couple milliseconds apart. Close enough.

   That's Wrong! Connally's (R) Arm does not move "upward".  His (R) shoulder DIPS, therefore his (R) arm is Dropping. Connally is turning around in the cramped Jump Seat area in order to face JFK and see what was going on in the Limo backseat. This is why we Never see Connally's (R) arm higher than the (R) side of the Limo.

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« Reply #89 on: Yesterday at 10:23:31 PM »
Hi James,

 My  Z frames are from the MPI DVD, I just brightened them up a little. 
I hope this frame 230 is what you need.


Best regards,
 Steve

 Z-230" border="0

   In addition to the position of JFK's hands, this clear still frame displays how cramped Gov Connally was in that jump seat. No MAN normally holds their Stetson Hat like a woman clutching a baby to her chest. The dipping of the (R) shoulder is being done to permit Connally making his (R) turnaround in these very cramped conditions. There is extremely little space between the Jump Seat and the side of the car. This was made obvious when Connally was seated in the JFK Limo at Love Field. They had to be careful when closing that rear passenger door and Not banging Connally's (R) leg with that door. In order to turn and face JFK in the backseat behind him, Connally had to manipulate his (R) Arm to make that turn around. The dipping of the (R) shoulder permitted Connally to turn around and face JFK.   

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« Reply #89 on: Yesterday at 10:23:31 PM »