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Online Martin Weidmann

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When are the CTs here going to tell us who, specifically, killed JFK?

"All we can say for sure is that it had to be the evil, evil, Deep State!"

LOL!

When are the CTs here going to tell us who, specifically, killed JFK?

Perhaps, when all the evidence that was surpressed and/or manipulated becomes available. Could that be the answer?


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The Secret Service killed him through inaction.

Online Benjamin Cole

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Indeed, if the Warren Commission, and the FBI, suppressed evidence regarding the JFKA, in accordance with President LBJ's instructions that nothing be found that could trigger a nuke war with Russia...

Then, without that suppressed evidence, it is difficult to reconstruct and positively identify LHO confederates.

If LHO's confederates were G2, and made it back to Cuba, they may have been eliminated for acting without authority.

Whether by chance or design, LHO was dead soon enough too.

If the G2'ers acted without supervision, there are no paper records on the JFKA in Cuba.

And what are the odds the Cuban government would ever admit, "Oh yeah, it was a couple of our guys, double-agents, that perped the JFKA, along with LHO."


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Indeed, if the Warren Commission, and the FBI, suppressed evidence regarding the JFKA, in accordance with President LBJ's instructions that nothing be found that could trigger a nuke war with Russia...

Then, without that suppressed evidence, it is difficult to reconstruct and positively identify LHO confederates.

If LHO's confederates were G2, and made it back to Cuba, they may have been eliminated for acting without authority.

Whether by chance or design, LHO was dead soon enough too.

If the G2'ers acted without supervision, there are no paper records on the JFKA in Cuba.

And what are the odds the Cuban government would ever admit, "Oh yeah, it was a couple of our guys, double-agents, that perped the JFKA, along with LHO."

Still using the all-the-evidence-has-been-suppressed excuse for why you guys can't make the case for your imagined conspiracies. You guys START was a conspiracy and then go looking for the evidence to support your premise. When you can't find any, you convince yourself all the good stuff has been hidden. Your entire premise is based on what-ifs. I count 3 in your latest post.

I remember back in the early 1990s when I was still a neophyte when it came to the internet and the JFK conspiracy debate. Shortly after Oliver Stone's movie came out, the ARRB was formed. The CTs were telling the LNs that the proof of conspiracy was just around the corner. When the bulk of the files were released, it turned out to be a big nothing burger. Ever since, the CTs have been whining that they are still holding on to the good stuff. As more and more of the files were gradually released and there was still no smoking gun, the CTs insisted that the few remaining sealed documents would have the proof they needed. When Trump finally released everything, it was still a big nothing burger. The CTs still insist evidence is being held from them. It's a matter of faith with them that there was a conspiracy and they would be able to prove that if only the government wasn't hiding the evidence. They never consider the possibility that their long-held beliefs could be wrong.

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Still using the all-the-evidence-has-been-suppressed excuse for why you guys can't make the case for your imagined conspiracies. You guys START was a conspiracy and then go looking for the evidence to support your premise. When you can't find any, you convince yourself all the good stuff has been hidden. Your entire premise is based on what-ifs. I count 3 in your latest post.

I remember back in the early 1990s when I was still a neophyte when it came to the internet and the JFK conspiracy debate. Shortly after Oliver Stone's movie came out, the ARRB was formed. The CTs were telling the LNs that the proof of conspiracy was just around the corner. When the bulk of the files were released, it turned out to be a big nothing burger. Ever since, the CTs have been whining that they are still holding on to the good stuff. As more and more of the files were gradually released and there was still no smoking gun, the CTs insisted that the few remaining sealed documents would have the proof they needed. When Trump finally released everything, it was still a big nothing burger. The CTs still insist evidence is being held from them. It's a matter of faith with them that there was a conspiracy and they would be able to prove that if only the government wasn't hiding the evidence. They never consider the possibility that their long-held beliefs could be wrong.

You guys START was a conspiracy and then go looking for the evidence to support your premise.

I don't know who "you guys" are but as far as I am concerned you couldn't be more wrong.

I take in consideration the selection of witnesses to testify before the WC. Arlen Specter spoke to FBI agents James Sibert and Francis O'Neill about their observations during Kennedy's autopsy and then decided not to call them to testify. Tomlinson, who found a bullet at Parkland Hospital, that was allegedly CE 399, never testified. They took his statement and he was asked over and over again about the stretcher that the bullet was on, but he wasn't asked once to identify the bullet that he gave to Wright. On April 10, 1964 Albert E Jenner wrote a memo to J. Lee Rankin in which he states that some parts of John Ely's memorandum about Oswald required "material alteration". And then there was the testimony of FBI questioned documents expert Cadigan's which was altered by deleting and let's not forget the way Rankin simply ignored the letter from Barefoot Sanders, in which he states that Miss Garner had said that she saw Truly and a policeman come up (the stairs) after Victoria Adams went on. What was also ignored/supressed was that Buell Wesley Frazier had stated on Friday evening, while being polygraphed, that the bag shown to him (i.e. the bag allegedly found at the sniper's nest) wasn't the one he had seen Oswald carry earlier that day.

The list goes on and on. It's all evidence that information was indeed supressed and/or manipulated.

But I'm sure that a fanatical LN zealot like you couldn't care less about any of this.

The list goes on an on.

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When are the CTs here going to tell us who, specifically, killed JFK? "All we can say for sure is that it had to be the evil, evil, Deep State!" LOL!

I'm guessing you haven't cracked the pages of any of the responsible, scholarly works on the JFK assassination written in the last 40 years.

Some questions for you to ponder:

Are you aware that some Mafia leaders were overheard on FBI wiretaps talking about wanting to see JFK dead before the assassination?

Are you aware that an FBI informant reported hearing Mafia leader Santo Trafficante say that JFK was going to be "hit" before the assassination?

Are you aware that Frank Ragano, the long-time attorney for Trafficante, revealed in his 1987 memoir that a seriously ill Trafficante, facing emergency heart surgery, told him that he and Marcello were responsible for JFK’s death?

Are you aware that a business associate of Mafia kingpin Carlos Marcello told federal authorities that he heard Marcello say he was going to have JFK killed and that the hit would involve "“setting up a nut to take the blame"?

Are you aware that an FBI informant reported that he heard Marcello admit to being involved in JFK's death?

Are you aware that Mafia man Eugene Hale Brading was arrested while coming out of the Dal-Tex Building shortly after the assassination because he seemed to be acting suspiciously? (Once at the police station, he gave the police a fake name, and the intrepid, uncurious DPD turned him loose when nothing came back about his fake name.)

Are you aware that in 2017 FBI documents were released that showed that Mafia tool Jack Ruby had advance knowledge of the JFK assassination?

Are you aware that two witnesses reported that in 1973 CIA hitman David Sanchez Morales proudly admitted to them that he and other CIA people "took care" of Kennedy in retribution for Kennedy's alleged treason in the Bay of Pigs operation? The two witnesses were Morales' lifelong friend, Ruben Carbajal, and Morales' attorney, Bob Walton.

Are you aware that Mark Wyatt, who served as a deputy to JFK-hating CIA officer William King Harvey, told his children and a French journalist that he saw Harvey on a flight to Dallas in November 1963, and that Harvey made comments to him soon after the assassination that indicated Harvey had either known about the murder in advance or had been involved in it. Wyatt’s daughter urged him to testify to the HSCA, but he could not bring himself to do it because of his sense of loyalty to the CIA.

Of course, given the fact that the Mafia and the CIA were working closely together at the time against Castro's Cuba, it is entirely plausible that anti-JFK elements from both entities teamed up to kill JFK. It is not an either/or situation.

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The old chestnut: rogue elements in the CIA.