Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane

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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 01:59:21 PM »
Thanks for posting.

Yes, who knows about the mysterious cars driving in and out the railroad parking lot, probably nothing.

The important part of this interview, captured on film (~5:55 forward) is Lee Bowers describing the cadence of shots. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Bowers knock-knocking on the table is far too rapid for shots from a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle (the M-C). 

Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman also said the second two shot reports were "almost simultaneous," and Secret Service man Kellerman said the shots arrived in a "flurry," while Gov JBC said he thought the shots were fired from an "automatic." Some of these guys were veterans, and other law enforcement officials---people familiar with gunshots.

This all lines up with JBC being shot ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313---as it appears on the Z-film.

The LNT SBT theories do require some suspensions of disbelief.

   "POW.......POW/POW"! This is how an adult Amos Euins described the shots on Max Holland's "The Lost Bullet". Euins even manually demonstrated the cadence of the shots as he judo chopped down on the pedestal he hid behind on 11/22/63.

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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 04:10:30 PM »
Thanks for posting.

Yes, who knows about the mysterious cars driving in and out the railroad parking lot, probably nothing.

The important part of this interview, captured on film (~5:55 forward) is Lee Bowers describing the cadence of shots. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Bowers knock-knocking on the table is far too rapid for shots from a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle (the M-C). 

Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman also said the second two shot reports were "almost simultaneous," and Secret Service man Kellerman said the shots arrived in a "flurry," while Gov JBC said he thought the shots were fired from an "automatic." Some of these guys were veterans, and other law enforcement officials---people familiar with gunshots.

If the weapon was an automatic, no one would have heard individual shots. Typically full-auto weapons have a rate of fire of 600 rounds a minute or faster. That's 10 rounds a second. People sometimes use the term automatic when referring to semi-autos, which fire just one bullet for every squeeze of the trigger.
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This all lines up with JBC being shot ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313---as it appears on the Z-film.

Absolutely nothing lines up with JBC being shot at Z295. It is preposterous.
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The LNT SBT theories do require some suspensions of disbelief.

If you are referring to Andrew Mason's SBT, I would agree with you.

The WC's SBT requires no such "suspension of belief". It is the result of knowledge of the evidence and sound rational analysis. It is the only explanation of the evidence that meets that criteria.




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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 05:35:39 PM »
Here are two views of the fence area from Bowers' location looking South.

The first is from Dale Myers' computer simulation. The second is a photo from Thompson's "Six Seconds in Dallas."




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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 10:22:15 PM »
Here's are two views of the fence area from Bowers' location looking South.

The first is from Dale Myers' computer simulation. The second is a photo from Thompson's "Six Seconds in Dallas."






   Thompson's "Six Seconds...." with the photo above was published in 1967. I don't know when Thompson had that "Bowers View" photo taken. That photo looks nothing like that area above the E-W picket fence did on 11/22/63. Thompson's photo makes it look like the Black Forest was running along the E-W section of the picket fence. Not true. If you look at the Darnell Film, there is a guy that actually stops running and looks over the picket fence toward the parking lot. Based on the Thompson Photo, that guy could Not have looked over the fence without using a machete. The Thompson photo misrepresents what the area above the picket fence looked like on 11/22/63. 

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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:40:14 AM »
JC:

re: Gov. JBC's comments.

JBC and wife were pretty steady on the  "first shot hit JFK, second hit JBC, third hit JFK." They were close-up witnesses, and both seemed sound of mind on 11.22 and succeeding dates.

It is curious that JBC, before both the WC and HSCA, described the bullets entering the cab of the limo with such rapidity, as if from an "automatic" rifle. This matches Kellerman's observation about a "flurry" of shots, which he then, under WC questioning, somewhat narrowed down to two shots in rapid succession.

I have wondered if JBC meant a "semi-automatic" rifle, but did not distinguish between a semi-automatic and an automatic rifle, or an automatic rifle, locked in semi-automatic mode (many automatic rifles can be "toggled" into semi-automatic mode, or one shot per squeeze of the trigger).

My take is JBC meant an automatic rifle, toggled into semi-automatic mode. The second and third shots entered the cab too rapidly to have been issued by a lone gunsel with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle.

Bowers' quick second and third knocks on the table, seen in video above, are yet another example of how most witnesses recognized the sequence or cadence of shots.

The SBT LNT theories require more suspension of disbelief that I can muster.

But each to his own, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusion.

 

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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #12 on: Today at 01:26:30 PM »
Thanks for posting.

Yes, who knows about the mysterious cars driving in and out the railroad parking lot, probably nothing.

The important part of this interview, captured on film (~5:55 forward) is Lee Bowers describing the cadence of shots. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Bowers knock-knocking on the table is far too rapid for shots from a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle (the M-C). 

Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman also said the second two shot reports were "almost simultaneous," and Secret Service man Kellerman said the shots arrived in a "flurry," while Gov JBC said he thought the shots were fired from an "automatic." Some of these guys were veterans, and other law enforcement officials---people familiar with gunshots.

This all lines up with JBC being shot ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313---as it appears on the Z-film.

The LNT SBT theories do require some suspensions of disbelief.

On the other hand, Bowers' recollections did get "better" (CT-wise) with time. His original affidavit said "at least three shots very close together." https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337259/m1/1/, https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337486/m1/1/. At the WC, it was "One, then a slight pause, then two very close together." Once a witness was in the slimy grip of Mark Lane, all bets are off. It would have been nice if the FBI/WC had really nailed down what the witnesses who said the second and third (or first and second!) shots were "much closer together" really meant. In any of the three-shot scenarios, they were indeed closer together but scarcely simultaneous. Did those witnesses who described them as much closer together (or "bang bang") mean several seconds or no gap at all? Did any of those witnesses describe seeing those two "much closer together" shots strike JFK/JBC?

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Re: Video: Lee Bowers Interview With Mark Lane
« Reply #13 on: Today at 02:10:17 PM »
WC apologists have never been able to offer a logical, credible explanation for Bowers' account of the three cars that clearly did a recon of the area behind the grassy knoll 10-35 minutes before the shooting. Lone-gunman theorists have offered two explanations for Bowers' account: (1) he was lying, and (2) the cars were just looking for a place to park.

The claim that he was lying does not deserve further comment.

So what about the claim that the cars were merely looking for a parking spot?

If the cars were looking for a parking space, why did they drive around in the small parking lot for several minutes? They would have been able to see whether there was a parking space in 20-30 seconds. I've been in that parking lot. It's quite small. Photos of the parking lot in 1963 show just how small it was. It was a parking lot for railroad employees and had railroad tracks running through it. Also, that area had been sealed off by the police since around 10:00 AM.

The first car crossed the railroad tracks, circled the area in front of the tower, and circled the area to the west of the tower. The second car spent 3-4 minutes slowly cruising around in the small parking lot and drove right next to Bowers' tower, and Bowers told the WC the driver appeared to be talking into a radio mike while he was driving. The third car spent even more time in the small parking lot than the first two cars. This doesn't sound like cars that were just looking for a parking space.

Before 11/22, Bowers had seen many cars enter the parking lot to find a parking space. Bowers noticed the three probing cars because they didn't behave like cars that were just looking for a parking place. No one got out of the cars to head toward the motorcade. Anyone who wanted parking to go see the motorcade would have gone to the large parking lot just north of Bowers' tower.

The cars that Bowers saw were clearly doing a recon of the area behind the knoll. It makes perfect sense that they would scout that area carefully before the motorcade arrived. The fact that one of the drivers appeared to be talking into a radio mike indicates this was a coordinated recon to ensure the grassy knoll team was safe.
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