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Offline Jack Nessan

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Speaking off the top of my head here, but as I recall several of the women along Elm near the Stemmons sign were consistent in saying that the first shot occurred when JFK was pretty much right in front of them. I was impressed by how many times this leaped out of the FBI statements when I was looking into the Gloria Calvery issue. Isn't that pretty close to where most three-shot fans think the second shot occurred? I don't have Phantom Shot handy at the moment to see how this is dealt with there.

It didn’t, the book Phantom Shot was basically about LHO and also the evidence that were only two shots not three. Media reporting influenced eyewitnesses. The page count restraints of the book also limited its scope. 

An early missed shot is no different than an earlier than early missed shot, a shot after the headshot or a missed second shot or four shots. Clint Hill supposedly not hearing a shot because he was running is a prime example. He doesn’t start running until the headshot. He heard the headshot. What exactly did he miss hearing?

Only because this Early missed shot issue seems to be the go-to theory, more research since the book was published has revealed that there are no eyewitnesses to an early missed shot. That in itself is telling. Especially when the HSCA Sound Analysis stated there is no mistaking how loud a rifle shot is in Dealey Plaza.

What is the need for a third shot that is never fully explained, nor is there any proof of its occurrence when two shots sum up the whole event?

Offline Jack Nessan

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   So "EVERYBODY" in Dealey Plaza "missed" the Early Shot? What's THAT tell you? There was NO "early shot"!
   Please Stop talking about an "early shot" like it is a Fact. It ain't. This is exactly why we have numerous JFK "Urban Legends". People endlessly repeat what they think "might" have happened to the point of it getting accepted as being a Fact.
   And this "early shot" stuff also ties in with: (1) the "early shot" hitting the traffic signal support beam, and (2) Oswald firing his weapon Downward through a 1/2 open window while in a Standing Position. Know it or not, You guys are building a snowball of  JFK Urban Legends.

HUH?

Offline Zeon Mason

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Another video of Norman completing his boom click click description in only 4 secs.

It might be plausible to suggest Norman heard it in 6 secs but it’s stretch to suggest it was an  8 or 10.2 duration.

The WC presumption was that the TSBD 6th floor shooter MUST have used the MC rifle because one was found on the 6th floor even though no statements  of finding gunpowder residue in the breech, chamber, or the barrel grooves or of the smell of gunpowder residue.

There was some controversy about finding a layer of oxidation in the barrel which should NOT have been there if 3 shots  had been fired  50 minutes  before the rifle was found. Generally  this is the “rusty barrel” CT factoid.

LNs explain it was a mistaken factoid about a
“Corroded barrel” which was referring to finding that the barrel had some pitting which was preexisting and which would not been removed by firing rounds. 

The shells found in the SN are questionable from the CT perspective because Will Fritz picked up 3 shells that Luke Mooney saw  ( 1st one there) on the SN floor BEFORE they were photographed laying there. Fritz left for a while with the shells in his pocket and then returned later to place 3 MC shells on the floor to be photographed. ( or even “threw” them down  according to Tom Aleya)

Norman described how he heard the FIRST shot fired and only  AFTER he saw JFK slump did Norman hear the last 2 shots fired which he said only took about 2 secs. That doesn’t support a Z224 shot being the 2nd shot. It’s actually supporting Z224 was the 1st shot.

There are some WC statements from Norman which he seems to deny he heard the sound of a bolt operating. He tries to explain that what he had originally said in the first interview with SS agent, that he had only said he head the   “ejection” of shells and the sound of them hitting the floor.

The boom “click click” and Norman saying he heard the bolt operation comes later, after there’s was more emphasis placed on convincing Norman he heard the operation of the MC bolt action, via an experiment.

So if Norman’s 4 sec  boom click click sequence ( or not longer than 6 secs) his accurate recollection, and he was not originally saying specifically hearing “bolt action” but rather just “ejection of shells” then it’s plausible to consider the TSBD shooter used a semi auto rifle instead of the MC rifle.

The fact of absence of reactions by any SS agents looking BACK at TSBD from Z133-Z207 and the fact of 3/4ths witness hearing last 2 shots “back to bsck” or in some cases only about 1 sec apart ( such as Lee Bowers) suggests Dans Z224 /Z313/ Z335ish 3 shots theory is plausible as firing the last 2 shots rapidly with a semi auto could have caused the last  shot  1 sec after Z313 to go slightly high due to the Muzzle rise effect. That round hits the curb near Tague.

It  semi auto would explain 4 witness who observed a “pointed” bullet” which was found on the stretcher and which 4 witness were unwilling to  confirm  399 was the bullet they had originally seen.
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Online Royell Storing

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HUH?

   You obviously are not up-to-speed on the alleged "early" 1st shot fairy tale.

Offline Lance Payette

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Royell, do you realize Jack is the author of Phantom Shot, which argues pretty persuasively that there were only two shots and thus no early shot? Aren't you the whiz kid who constantly tells people they need to do their research and get up to speed?