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Online Benjamin Cole

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No Nuke Wars are Good Wars
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Is this true: In his biography of Earl Warren, Ed Cray reported that Warren once confided to a friend that "There was great pressure on us to prove, first, that President Johnson was not involved, and, second, that the Russians were not involved."

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Yes, this is true. In his 1997 biography, Chief Justice: A Biography of Earl Warren, historian Ed Cray documented that Warren made this exact comment to a friend.

The pressure Warren referred to—namely, ensuring the public was certain neither President Johnson nor the Soviet Union (Russians) were involved—was largely driven by Cold War fears. Commission members were deeply concerned that any credible link to a foreign power or a high-level domestic conspiracy could escalate the geopolitical tensions of the era into a potential nuclear conflict.

You can find further details about his biography and the history of the Warren Commission through the National Archives.

CHIEF JUSTICE: A Biography of Earl Warren. By Ed Cray .<i ...Jun 15, 2540 BE — CHIEF JUSTICE: A Biography of Earl Warren. By Ed Cray . Simon & Schuster: 604 pp., $30. .

Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #1 on: Today at 12:57:56 PM »
But, of course! We know the "steer clear of the Russians" angle from many sources. The "steer clear of LBJ" angle is obvious because ... yes, wait for it ... Cui bono? practically screams LBJ was involved. Oddly, despite the "great pressure" the WR doesn't deal with the LBJ elephant in the room at all.

Cray was no lightweight by any means: https://obituaries.paloaltoonline.com/obituaries/print/ed-cray?o=6011.

His biography of Warren, which I admittedly haven't read, won the American Bar Association's Silver Gavel Award as the best law-related book of the year.

Online John Corbett

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« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:05:02 PM »
But, of course! We know the "steer clear of the Russians" angle from many sources. The "steer clear of LBJ" angle is obvious because ... yes, wait for it ... Cui bono? practically screams LBJ was involved. Oddly, despite the "great pressure" the WR doesn't deal with the LBJ elephant in the room at all.

Cray was no lightweight by any means: https://obituaries.paloaltoonline.com/obituaries/print/ed-cray?o=6011.

His biography of Warren, which I admittedly haven't read, won the American Bar Association's Silver Gavel Award as the best law-related book of the year.

What nonsense. Note Warren's wording. He said the pressure was on the to PROVE neither the Russians but LBJ were involved. Nobody thought they were but it was important to prove that to the satisfaction of the American people.

Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:45:10 PM »
What nonsense. Note Warren's wording. He said the pressure was on the to PROVE neither the Russians but LBJ were involved. Nobody thought they were but it was important to prove that to the satisfaction of the American people.

Missed the target again! It was necessary to "prove" LBJ was not involved because the American people, having read enough of Agatha Christie to know about this Cui bono? stuff, were collectively saying "Hey, what about them there Russkies? What about that LBJ guy?" In fact, LBJ's concern was PREDICATED on fear that the public would be clamoring about them there Russkies (and Cubans) and demanding WW3. Substitute "pretty much everybody" for "nobody" in your second sentence and it's closer to the truth. Enquiring minds wonder why, if it was important to prove to the American people that LBJ was not involved, the WC rather pointedly avoided the issue? They could have dismissed it with a simple footnote: "Despite Cui bono? pointing rather decisively to our beloved current President, and despite the plethora of rumors suggesting he was involved, Commission staffer Sally Withers interviewed our beloved current President for more than 30 minutes and has satisfied the Commission that our beloved current President was simply too busy with the business of state to have found time to participate in an assassination. Our beloved current President is hereby exonerated and/or pardoned, as the case may be, and all Cui bono? speculation to the contrary is hereby dismissed as pernicious nonsense and/or claptrap."