Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[John Corbett]

That 6.6 secs estimate is for the Z190-Z313 shots in the hypothetical 3 shot sequence that Andrew proposes. If the avg Z- film speed is 18.5 frames/sec and 313-190=123 frames then 123/18.5=6.649 secs.

There was ONE of the CBS time trial shooters ( an OLD guy like me ) who managed to score 3 hits on the easy to see red human shape on a large black square that was moving on a white track clearly visible and where no tree was an obstacle and where the shooter could set up with rifle pointing out the window before the target started moving. And he managed to score 3 hits in about 5.6 seconds on his first attempt.

So there’s that LOL.

I believe the average for the Z-film was 18.3 fps, but let's not quibble.

I have no idea why CBS tried to shoehorn the shooting into a 5.6 second time frame because that was never a conclusion of the WC. They allowed for that possibility but never said that's what happened. In short, CBS screwed the pooch when they did that exercise.

[Andrew Mason]

In Andrew’s Z190 1st shot theory, which shot  is CE 399?

And what’s the likely path of z190 shot after it exited JFKs throat?

CE399 was the first bullet that struck JFK when he was between the lamp post and Thornton sign.  I put it at or just before z193, after which JFK is seen to turn forward. This bullet passed through JFK’s neck without encountering anything capable of changing its direction.  Where it went after that is a matter of placing both men in positions seen in the zfilm at z190-193 and seeing where a straight line points. It could not have passed to the far right side of Connnally at that point. So the only possibility would seem to be that it caused a wound to JBC on his left side.

My best guess would be that since  the Z190 bullet trajectory is more acute than a Z223 shot  trajectory   that the bullet after exiting JFK throat would have gone thru the front seat just to the left of Kellerman and buried into the front dash board.

It was on a downward slope at z190:


It doesn’t look like it would have struck the dashboard.

Not saying I’m agreeing with this Z190 1st shot idea but at least it’s consistent with 3 shots fired in about 6.6 secs which is close together as most witness heard and a fair match to Harold Norman’s spacing in his boom click  click sequence.

And if I’m remembering  right, Andrew has the 2nd shot at about Z285? And that shot then must be the one That went thru JCs wrist bone and then into his left thigh yes?

At z285 Connally is already falling back and Greer is turned around, which he said he did at the time of the second shot. I suggest the shot was at z271-272.  His forward motion/recoil begins at z271-272.  The hair on JFK’s right side flies up at z273-276 (Hickey observed this on the second shot).

Yet it looks like to me that JC has already lifted up the hat suddenly by Z230 which is about 2.5 secs BEFORE Z285. If the hat is up in his right hand at Z285, not sure how the shot at Z285 which strikes him in the left thigh would  have gone thru the wrist?

The thigh wound did not occur on the second shot. JBC never felt the thigh wound.