Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #84 on: December 26, 2025, 08:25:34 PM »
Charles, you're wasting your time with Royell Storing, who believes the entire film and photo record of the assassination has been doctored, faked and altered. It's absurd.

      I am firmly standing behind the The Towner, "...film and photo record of the assassination....". Time for you to put the Christmas, "Who Hit John", away.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2025, 07:13:52 AM »



The animation is based on the photographic record. It’s confirmed by that record, including the Towner images as I have clearly demonstrated.

   Towner said she stopped filming after the 1st shot. Her Film shows the JFK Limo and the hood of the Queen Mary behind it, but No trace of the TALL Monument in the background. This means the JFK Limo was (W) of the sidewalk that runs down from the (E) Pergola Shelter at this point in time. Per the account of Tina Towner, the alleged "early" 1st shot never happened.
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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #86 on: December 29, 2025, 10:58:55 PM »
   Towner said she stopped filming after the 1st shot. Her Film shows the JFK Limo and the hood of the Queen Mary behind it, but No trace of the TALL Monument in the background. This means the JFK Limo was (W) of the sidewalk that runs down from the (E) Pergola Shelter at this point in time. Per the account of Tina Towner, the alleged "early" 1st shot never happened.

I think you meant that she stopped filming before the first shot.  To figure out where JFK is on Elm St. all you need to do is see where the sightline from the camera through JFK extends to and then plot that sightline on a map of Dealey Plaza:


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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2025, 11:15:28 PM »
I was talking about both and got confused between this and the First Shot thread.  But the point is the same.  The idea that anyone would have forgotten about the first shot is absurd.  They may not have counted all the shots but the idea that they did not notice the shots is something that you are just speculating about to explain why not a single witness put the first shot anywhere near where you put it (half a second before Zapruder started filming).

Tina Towner put it later (4-6 seconds after she stopped filming according to her 1996 oral history at Sixth Floor Museum). Hugh Betzner put it later (after z186). Robert Croft put it later (after z161). Occupants of the VP car put it later (just completed the turn). Connally put it later (150-200 feet after the corner).  Mary Woodward put it later (after JFK's last right turn, wave after he passed by where she stood). Occupants of the VP Security car put it later (almost completed the turn). Greer put it later (when they were passing the west edge of the TSBD). Billy Clay, Jean Newman, Georgia Hendrix, Sue Dickerson, Peggy Hawkins, said the President had just passed them when the first shot occurred.  Karan Hicks said :The car he was in was almost directly in front of where I was standing when I heard the first explosion."   

How could all these witnesses independently recall a first shot 4-5 seconds later than you suggest and all be so wrong and yet not a single witness put it anywhere near where you suggest?

  Bump regarding the Towner 1st shot claim. The Towner " 4-6 seconds" after she Stopped Filming totally destroys a very early 1st shot. She clearly was still filming when the JFK Limo was (W) of the sidewalk/Tall Monument.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2025, 11:22:01 PM »
I think you meant that she stopped filming before the first shot.  To figure out where JFK is on Elm St. all you need to do is see where the sightline from the camera through JFK extends to and then plot that sightline on a map of Dealey Plaza:



   The above would be perfect if Towner was looking through a monocular. And then she was panning too.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #89 on: December 30, 2025, 04:34:49 AM »
   The above would be perfect if Towner was looking through a monocular. And then she was panning too.
I think her camera had only one lens. She wasn't filming through binoculars. What does panning have to do with the position of JFK in the last frame?

If Tina Towner was right that the first shot occurred even 3 or 4 seconds after she stopped filming then there was no early first shot miss.

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Re: Proof Rosemary Willis had started looking towards the TSBD by Z-145
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2025, 06:42:53 AM »
I think her camera had only one lens. She wasn't filming through binoculars. What does panning have to do with the position of JFK in the last frame?

If Tina Towner was right that the first shot occurred even 3 or 4 seconds after she stopped filming then there was no early first shot miss.

   Towner panning would impact the Line-Of-Sight (LOS). You're visual aid shows her LOS being straight lined.
    I agree. Not only was there, "...no early first shot miss", there was no early first shot period.