When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2025, 09:20:11 PM »
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Clint Hill has already STARTED to react as he is seen doing in the Altgens photo 6 at approx Z 255.

From Z223 to Z255  it’s about 1.5 secs. Therefore. Clint Hill beginning to move one of his feet off the lower step rail of the car at Z225 coincides approx with how fast a trained SS agent would  react to recognizing a loud noise at Z223 approx , as coming from a rifle shot.

From Z255 to Z313 it is about 3 more secs , and it’s in this duration of time that Hill is leaping, and his feet hit the ground and he starts to run towards the JFK limo. This is all happening just BEFORE Z313.

And most notably it’s in this next 3 second duration of time as Clint Hill leaps from the foot rail of the car and begins to run , that he heard the 2nd shot BEFORE he heard and saw the effects of  the 3rd shot at Z313.

So this is an unresolved anomaly for the WC conventional 3 shots spread over 7-8 secs because if Hill reacted to a Z 233 shot as the 1st shot he heard thus causing him to react by Z 255, then the 2nd shot he heard just  before Z313, is highly improbable to have been fired from the MC bolt action rifle , since all 3 shots were fired in only 4.8 secs.

Thus is why the WC suggested an early (missed the whole limo ) 1st shot idea ( really absurd it would seem ) if not for a possibility of the TSBD shooter accidentally squeezing trigger AS he leaned over to rest the rifle on the boxes he had arranged to serve as a firing platform.

This unaimed accidental trigger squeeze by the TSBD shooter could be plausible EXCEPT that it would is inconsistent with  the 2/3rds  of witness hearing a rapid 3 shot sequence as 1….2.3 . Furthermore, Harold’s Norman’s recollection of 3 shots fired as quickly  as 4-5 secs is coincidentally matching with Clint Hills reaction beginning at Z255 and his recollection of the last 2 shots being very close together.

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2025, 09:20:11 PM »


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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2025, 01:57:28 AM »
Clint Hill has already STARTED to react as he is seen doing in the Altgens photo 6 at approx Z 255.

From Z223 to Z255  it’s about 1.5 secs. Therefore. Clint Hill beginning to move one of his feet off the lower step rail of the car at Z225 coincides approx with how fast a trained SS agent would  react to recognizing a loud noise at Z223 approx , as coming from a rifle shot.

From Z255 to Z313 it is about 3 more secs , and it’s in this duration of time that Hill is leaping, and his feet hit the ground and he starts to run towards the JFK limo. This is all happening just BEFORE Z313.

And most notably it’s in this next 3 second duration of time as Clint Hill leaps from the foot rail of the car and begins to run , that he heard the 2nd shot BEFORE he heard and saw the effects of  the 3rd shot at Z313.

So this is an unresolved anomaly for the WC conventional 3 shots spread over 7-8 secs because if Hill reacted to a Z 233 shot as the 1st shot he heard thus causing him to react by Z 255, then the 2nd shot he heard just  before Z313, is highly improbable to have been fired from the MC bolt action rifle , since all 3 shots were fired in only 4.8 secs.

Thus is why the WC suggested an early (missed the whole limo ) 1st shot idea ( really absurd it would seem ) if not for a possibility of the TSBD shooter accidentally squeezing trigger AS he leaned over to rest the rifle on the boxes he had arranged to serve as a firing platform.

This unaimed accidental trigger squeeze by the TSBD shooter could be plausible EXCEPT that it would is inconsistent with  the 2/3rds  of witness hearing a rapid 3 shot sequence as 1….2.3 . Furthermore, Harold’s Norman’s recollection of 3 shots fired as quickly  as 4-5 secs is coincidentally matching with Clint Hills reaction beginning at Z255 and his recollection of the last 2 shots being very close together.

Hill never left the car till after the head shot. He lied for years about it. Could you have seen him on the witness stand during a trial confronted with video evidence?


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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2025, 02:59:25 PM »
  If people are gonna but into the Max Holland's 11+ seconds elapsed time for all 3 shots, then the inaction of the SS becomes even more egregious. How can a POTUS be under active fire for 11+ seconds and the SS does absolutely NOTHING to defend him? Nothing but cut-n-run. "Take a bullet for the POTUS"? That's comic book stuff.
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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
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  If people are gonna but into the Max Holland's 11+ seconds elapsed time for all 3 shots, then the inaction of the SS becomes even more egregious. How can a POTUS be under active fire for 11+ seconds and the SS does absolutely NOTHING to defend him? Nothing but cut-n-run. "Take a bullet for the POTUS"? That's comic book stuff.
JFK was under fire from Oswald for 6 seconds.
Then 4 seconds later Hill jumped, while at that same time Hickey fired Hickey's AR15 (an accidental auto burst of at least 4 shots, the last shot hitting JFK in the head).
Hill should have (instead of jumping) grabbed the barrel of Hickey's AR15.

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JFK was under fire from Oswald for 6 seconds.

LOL!

10.2 seconds.

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Hill never left the car till after the head shot. He lied for years about it. Could you have seen him on the witness stand during a trial confronted with video evidence?

Hill jumped allmost one second before the headshot. Hill was allmost level with the front wheel at Z312-Z313 (seen in  the Bronson footage).

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LOL!

10.2 seconds.
Nope. Oswald fired at about Z105 & then at about Z218 (ie 6.1 seconds).

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Nope. Oswald fired at about Z105 & then at about Z218 (ie 6.1 seconds).

If it involves another shooter, it's just one of the versions Vladimir Putin wants you to believe.

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