When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?

[Tom Graves]

Have you watched the You Tube presentation by Max Holland? 11+ seconds is what he has been pushing and he is the guy that originated this "early shot" scenario. Same goes for Holland being the originator of Oswald standing erect when firing that early 1st shot Down through a 1/2 open window.

Dear World-Famous Comrade Storing,

Why are you obsessed with Holland's probably incorrect theory when, in fact, Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was more likely at "Z-124," i.e., a second later than Holland's "Z-107"?

-- Tom

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

   The above is based on the Zapruder Film. As is Always the case, "Consider the source".

The Z312 timing of Hickey's last shot is of course based on Zapruder footage.
But the position of Hill just short of the center of the front wheel at Z312 is based on Bronson footage mainly.

[Royell Storing]

Dear World-Famous Comrade Storing,

Why are you obsessed with Holland's probably incorrect theory when, in fact, Oswald's first, missing-everything shot was more likely at "Z-124," i.e., a second later than Holland's "Z-107"?

-- Tom

   What bothers me is the general acceptance by the JFK Assassination Research Community of the Holland "Theory" without any serious push back. A major part of this is due to it being broadcast world wide by National Geographic. This is the same thing we saw transpire with CBS, NBC, ABC, and PBS doing likewise with the WC Whitewash during the 60's and 70's. Anybody bucking this "rip tide" gets their appearances/opinions Black Balled. And that translates into $$. What we are seeing with Holland's half baked theories is the JFK Assassination Research Community simply "going with the flow". Anybody doing the deep dive research and revealing the Holland Baloney for what it is, is soon preaching to a congregation of 1. And this media generated riptide includes the famed Sixth Floor Museum too. 

[Tom Graves]

   What bothers me is the general acceptance by the JFK Assassination Research Community of the Holland "Theory" without any serious push back. A major part of this is due to it being broadcast world wide by National Geographic. This is the same thing we saw transpire with CBS, NBC, ABC, and PBS doing likewise with the WC Whitewash during the 60's and 70's. Anybody bucking this "rip tide" gets their appearances/opinions Black Balled. And that translates into $$. What we are seeing with Holland's half baked theories is the JFK Assassination Research Community simply "going with the flow". Anybody doing the deep dive research and revealing the Holland Baloney for what it is, is soon preaching to a congregation of 1. And this media generated riptide includes the famed Sixth Floor Museum too.

Holland arrived at his partially right* theory in 2007 or so.

It's 2025, going on 2026 now.

Things change.

It's known as progress.

*That the first shot occurred before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.

[Jake Maxwell]

   What bothers me is the general acceptance by the JFK Assassination Research Community of the Holland "Theory" without any serious push back. A major part of this is due to it being broadcast world wide by National Geographic. This is the same thing we saw transpire with CBS, NBC, ABC, and PBS doing likewise with the WC Whitewash during the 60's and 70's. Anybody bucking this "rip tide" gets their appearances/opinions Black Balled. And that translates into $$. What we are seeing with Holland's half baked theories is the JFK Assassination Research Community simply "going with the flow". Anybody doing the deep dive research and revealing the Holland Baloney for what it is, is soon preaching to a congregation of 1. And this media generated riptide includes the famed Sixth Floor Museum too.

A lot of folks are eating Holland Baloney sandwiches...

Assuming a sixth floor lone gunman's first shot hit the traffic signal pole... then a second shot hit Kennedy in the back, and a third shot blew off his head... How does Holland's theory account for the bullet hitting the curb and a fragment hitting James Tague on the cheek?

[Royell Storing]

Holland arrived at his partially right* theory in 2007 or so.

It's 2025, going on 2026 now.

Things change.

It's known as progress.

*That the first shot occurred before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.

   "Progress"? Based on what EVIDENCE?  We have: (1) a shot that is alleged to have been fired when Zapruder just happened to Not be filming, and (2) this same shot also then transforming into a "Lost Bullet". And you label this as, "Progress"? The Brothers Grimm also composed several drafts of their fairy tales before deciding on their final draft. 

[Jarrett Smith]

Holland arrived at his partially right* theory in 2007 or so.

It's 2025, going on 2026 now.

Things change.

It's known as progress.

*That the first shot occurred before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.

There is zero proof of a shot that early Comrade.