A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys

[Tom Graves]

  Hackerott saw that the National Geographic film snippet proved him wrong. It's clear that is a getaway car that was deserted there on the corner. It's obvious that it was gonna make a quick (R) turn onto Elm St ASAP and then be gone. The question remaining is if those 2 guys that have been debated as being Shelley and Lovelady are actually the 2 guys that vacated that getaway car.

Dear Comrade Storing,

How do you know there were two guys in that in the car we see in the Robert Hughes clip and at the 08:56 mark in this video?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

How do you know there were two guys in that in the car we see in the Robert Hughes clip and at the 08:56 mark in this video?

-- Tom

   The Couch/Darnell Films show 2 Guys walking away from the car parked on the corner. I believe these same 2 guys had just gotten out of this car and were "distancing" themselves from the car.  I believe this car was their "getaway" car. 1 Shooter + 1 Spotter = 2 Guys

[Tom Graves]

   The Couch/Darnell Films show 2 Guys walking away from the car parked on the corner. I believe these same 2 guys had just gotten out of this car and were "distancing" themselves from the car.  I believe this car was their "getaway" car. 1 Shooter + 1 Spotter = 2 Guys

Dear Comrade Storing,

How is it that they dressed just like William Shelley and Billy Lovelady that day, and how is it that the one who was wearing Lovelady's shirt had a bald spot just like Billy's?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

How is it that they dressed just like William Shelley and Billy Lovelady that day, and how is it that the one who was wearing Lovelady's shirt had a bald spot just like Billy's?

-- Tom

   You're "assuming facts not in evidence". The Couch/Darnell still frames are not nearly clear enough to tell if these 2 Guys were: (1) "...dressed JUST LIKE William Shelley and Billy Lovelady", (2) "...one was wearing Lovelady's shirt, and, (3) had a bald spot JUST LIKE Billy's". The lack of detail in these still frames renders your claims to be not remotely fact based. What is a Fact is that both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testimony regarding their moving down the Elm St Ext at about 3 minutes after the Kill Shot. The Couch/Darnell fuzzy still frames showing these 2 guys were taken at roughly 30 seconds after the Kill Shot. Based on the timeline provided by Lovelady/Shelley in their own sworn testimonies means these fuzzy figures can Not be them.   

[Tom Graves]

You're "assuming facts not in evidence". The Couch/Darnell still frames are not nearly clear enough to tell if these 2 Guys were: (1) "...dressed JUST LIKE William Shelley and Billy Lovelady", (2) "...one was wearing Lovelady's shirt, and, (3) had a bald spot JUST LIKE Billy's". The lack of detail in these still frames renders your claims to be not remotely fact based. What is a Fact is that both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testimony regarding their moving down the Elm St Ext at about 3 minutes after the kill shot. The Couch/Darnell fuzzy still frames showing these 2 guys were taken at roughly 30 seconds after the Kill Shot. Based on the timeline provided by Lovelady/Shelley in their own sworn testimonies means these fuzzy figures can Not be them.

Dear Comrade Storing,

If I understand you correctly, you think the car that's visible to the left of Fedora Man in the Wiegman clip isn't the car that's parked on the island side of Elm Street Extension in the Robert Hughes clip and in the National Geographic clip, but a car that's parked on the TSBD side of Elm Street Extension in the aforementioned National Geographic video.

If so, why is it so large in the Wiegman clip?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

If I understand you correctly, you think the car that's visible to the left of Fedora Man in the Wiegman clip isn't the car that's parked on the island side of Elm Street Extension in the Robert Hughes clip and in the National Geographic clip, but a car that's parked on the TSBD side of Elm Street Extension in the aforementioned National Geographic video.

If so, why is it so large in the Wiegman clip?

-- Tom

    You have not Proven that the car in the Nat Geo snippet that also shows Amos Euins is the same car we see on the corner in the Couch/Darnell films. You might be correct, but to this point you have yet to supply any proof of your claim being a fact. I use the signal light pole and/or the signage on the other pole to verify a car being the same car we see on the Couch/Darnell films. I do not see either pole on the Nat Geo/Amos Euins snippet.
     What's "large" to you may not be "large" to me. This is "eye of the beholder" territory. Leads to nowhere.

[Tom Graves]

You have not Proven that the car in the Nat Geo snippet that also shows Amos Euins is the same car we see on the corner in the Couch/Darnell films. You might be correct, but to this point you have yet to supply any proof of your claim being a fact. I use the signal light pole and/or the signage on the other pole to verify a car being the same car we see on the Couch/Darnell films. I do not see either pole on the Nat Geo/Amos Euins snippet. What's "large" to you may not be "large" to me. This is "eye of the beholder" territory. Leads to nowhere.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Did you not understand James Hackerott's graphics?

-- Tom