The First Shot

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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1582 on: Today at 06:12:46 PM »


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Online John Corbett

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1583 on: Today at 07:27:10 PM »
You gave nothing other than your cherry-picked 'corroborations' and your own ill informed interpretation of what the Z-film shows.

Naturally when I am providing specific frames to corroborate the various things JBC said, I am going to cherry pick the frames. It would be rather silly to just post random frames.
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This thread is a forensic examination of every piece of evidence relating to when the first shot occurred, including Connally's recollections.
Your ignorance regarding this matter appears to be total. Yet you are solidly convinced of your correctness.

Because I am correct. It's not like that's a great achievement. All it requires is a working knowledge of the evidence and the ability to apply common sense. The rest is easy.
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For the last time - JBC's memory of the event cannot be relied on because he suffered a massively traumatic, life-threatening injury which dramatically affected his memory of the event.

We can rely on anything JBC remembered that is corroborated by the Z-film. If not for the Z-film, it would be very difficult to determine what JBC said that could be accepted as factual.
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Do you agree with him that the first two shots were a "split second" apart?

Where did you get that one? This was JBC's testimony to the WC:

Mr. SPECTER. What is the best estimate that you have as to the time span between the sound of the first shot and the feeling of someone hitting you in the back which you just described?
Governor CONNALLY. A very, very brief span of time.
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Do you agree he was facing just left of centre when shot?

No. The Z-film refutes that. He had started to turn in that direction but had not quite squared up when the bullet struck. We are talking about less than a half second difference from the time the bullet struck him until he was facing forward.
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Do you agree, according to the Z-film, the only time he turns to face JFK is after he has been shot?

Yes it was but according to his testimony, he had no memory of seeing JFK. Perfectly understandable given the seriousness of his wound.
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Do you agree with JBC's assessment of around z234 as the moment he was shot?

No, I only believe the parts of his statement that conform to what the Z-film shows because I know the Z-film is correct.
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Do you believe in examining ALL the evidence?

I believe in WEIGHING all the evidence. That's the part CTs are not very good at. I'm not one to accept something as factual just because a witness has said that's how they remember the event.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1584 on: Today at 07:40:28 PM »

For the last time - JBC's memory of the event cannot be relied on because he suffered a massively traumatic, life-threatening injury which dramatically affected his memory of the event.

Do you agree with him that the first two shots were a "split second" apart?
JBC said that there was perceptible time between the shots. In this 1966 press conference he denied that the shots were spaced less than a second apart.  He estimated 2 seconds (at 2:25 and following):


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Do you agree he was facing just left of centre when shot?
No. He thought he was but Nellie was in a better position to accurately see this. She told Dr. Shires that he was turned to his right when hit.
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Do you agree, according to the Z-film, the only time he turns to face JFK is after he has been shot?
Not according to Nellie or Gayle Newman. They said he was turned to his right side.
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Do you agree with JBC's assessment of around z234 as the moment he was shot?
No. Not if he was hit in the torso by the second shot.  That does not fit the 1……2….3 shot pattern or Greer’s evidence or Altgen’s evidence or Hickey’s evidence.

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Do you believe in examining ALL the evidence?
Of course. Do you?
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