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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2025, 01:32:11 AM »
We can’t tell if the Darnell/Couch car at the traffic pole is or is not present in Wiegman. This is due to the fact that spectators block a clear view of where the car would be.
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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2025, 04:31:52 PM »
We can’t tell if the Darnell/Couch car at the traffic pole is or is not present in Wiegman. This is due to the fact that spectators block a clear view of where the car would be.
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   The car on the Couch/Darnell Films is parked with its' Front bumper almost in line with the traffic pole. The vast majority of this car stretches BACK toward the railroad yard. On the Wiegman Film, we see spectators stretching back from this same traffic pole. These spectators are standing almost in line back toward the railroad. We can clearly see between these spectators. We see No Trace of a Car parked alongside the Island between these spectators. We DO SEE the  surface of the Elm St Ext. There is clearly no trace of a car.  Again, I am examining a very good copy of the Wiegman Film. This Wiegman Copy is from the "Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" (2003) DVD. I am viewing it straight from the DVD onto a 55" 4K Monitor. This presentation was on the Discovery Channel and hosted by Gary Mack. The clarity of ALL the images on this presentation, (there are a lot), has me believing that Gary Mack used Sixth Floor Museum images for this presentation. Maybe you are examining a sub-standard copy of the Wiegman Film? 

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2025, 10:31:23 PM »
   The car on the Couch/Darnell Films is parked with its' Front bumper almost in line with the traffic pole. The vast majority of this car stretches BACK toward the railroad yard. On the Wiegman Film, we see spectators stretching back from this same traffic pole. These spectators are standing almost in line back toward the railroad. We can clearly see between these spectators. We see No Trace of a Car parked alongside the Island between these spectators. We DO SEE the  surface of the Elm St Ext. There is clearly no trace of a car.  Again, I am examining a very good copy of the Wiegman Film. This Wiegman Copy is from the "Unsolved History JFK, Death in Dealey Plaza" (2003) DVD. I am viewing it straight from the DVD onto a 55" 4K Monitor. This presentation was on the Discovery Channel and hosted by Gary Mack. The clarity of ALL the images on this presentation, (there are a lot), has me believing that Gary Mack used Sixth Floor Museum images for this presentation. Maybe you are examining a sub-standard copy of the Wiegman Film?

Dear Comrade Storing,

Among the women who are standing near the tip of the "island" in Weitzman I mean Wiegman, there's one who's wearing a dark-colored blouse or sweater and a light colored skirt (she's also visible in Couch-Darnell but she's turned to her right to look down towards the triple underpass), and to her immediate left in Weitzman I mean Wiegman there's a woman who's wearing all dark-colored clothes and is leaning forward (they both have their arms crossed).

If you'll look at the area between their lower legs in Weitzman I mean Wiegman at the 01:17 mark, I MIGHT BE WRONG -- but think you can see the tire and the hubcap of the evil, evil MYSTO GETAWAY CAR, which lines up perfectly with where the EVIL, EVIL MYSTO GETAWAY Car's right-front tire would be -- as indicated in James' masterfully aligned overlay of the pertinent Couch-Darnell frame and the Weitzman I mean Wiegman frame.

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4acfbdfe9e621853&sxsrf=AE3TifPQscII5B33689WN5ASLy4V67ymfw:1761253738909&udm=7&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZ1Y6MJ25_tmWITc7uy4KIeoJTKjrFjVxydQWqI2NcOhYPURIv2wPgv_w_sE_0Sc6QogS5TvEDp7UpbJYBVowPixqwW1m3RxusXeC54mlaBukI-u11T8A4p_RoeB8Zd5XkUrSSuQd1RmntXpoeT5OCau1r5sZxcabp8_wMX507cRuTxRAAlmoUaYXhQYLDPQWL9DB5tQ&q=%22wiegman+film%22+jfk&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYgd67nbuQAxUDiO4BHbLSG9QQtKgLegQIFxAB&biw=1592&bih=744&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:63d72787,vid:u3xR0WBPo8I,st:0

-- Tom
« Last Edit: October 23, 2025, 11:03:37 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2025, 11:16:15 PM »
Dear Comrade Storing,

Among the people who are standing near the tip of the "island" in Weitzman I mean Wiegman, there's one who's wearing a dark-colored blouse or sweater and a light colored skirt (she's also visible in Couch-Darnell but she's turned to her right to look down towards the triple underpass), and to her immediate left in Weitzman I mean Wiegman there's a woman who's wearing all dark-colored clothes and is leaning forward (they both have their arms crossed).

If you'll look at the area between their lower legs in Weitzman I mean Wiegman at the 01:17 mark, I MIGHT BE WRONG -- but think you can see the tire and the hubcap of the evil, evil MYSTO GETAWAY CAR, which lines up perfectly with where the EVIL, EVIL MYSTO GETAWAY Car's right-front tire would be -- as indicated in James' masterfully aligned overlay of the pertinent Couch-Darnell frame and the Weitzman I mean Wiegman frame.

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4acfbdfe9e621853&sxsrf=AE3TifPQscII5B33689WN5ASLy4V67ymfw:1761253738909&udm=7&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZ1Y6MJ25_tmWITc7uy4KIeoJTKjrFjVxydQWqI2NcOhYPURIv2wPgv_w_sE_0Sc6QogS5TvEDp7UpbJYBVowPixqwW1m3RxusXeC54mlaBukI-u11T8A4p_RoeB8Zd5XkUrSSuQd1RmntXpoeT5OCau1r5sZxcabp8_wMX507cRuTxRAAlmoUaYXhQYLDPQWL9DB5tQ&q=%22wiegman+film%22+jfk&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYgd67nbuQAxUDiO4BHbLSG9QQtKgLegQIFxAB&biw=1592&bih=744&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:63d72787,vid:u3xR0WBPo8I,st:0

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   The "getaway" car was parked with its' front bumper roughly EVEN with the Signal Light Pole and the car stretching BACK toward the railroad yard. (Per seeing Officer Baker run across the Island on the Couch & Darnell Films). The women you are talking about were standing on the Other Side/Wrong Side of this same Signal Light Pole. The definition of the Wiegman Film you posted is substandard. It probably has something to do with it being posted on YouTube 15 yrs ago. 

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2025, 11:33:03 PM »
The "getaway" car was parked with its' front bumper roughly EVEN with the Signal Light Pole and the car stretching BACK toward the railroad yard. (Per seeing Officer Baker run across the Island on the Couch & Darnell Films). The women you are talking about were standing on the Other Side/Wrong Side of this same Signal Light Pole. The definition of the Wiegman Film you posted is substandard. It probably has something to do with it being posted on YouTube 15 yrs ago.

Dear Comrade Storing,

Can you see your MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in Couch-Darnell as Officer Baker runs in front of it on his way to the TSBD entrance about 25 seconds after the final shot?

Good!

Can you mentally visualize where that car's right-front tire is?

Good!

Now look at James' fine overlay of the pertinent Couch-Darnell / Wiegman frames and ask yourself, "Okay, where would I see that tire in James' Weigman frame IF the car were already parked in the same spot it's parked in Couch-Darnell if all of those darn women weren't standing near the tip of the "island" in Wiegman and blocking our view of it?" (Hint: It is.)

You can do that by going to the 01:17 mark in the Wiegman film (below) -- which happens to be the same frame that's in James' overlay -- and looking very closely at the area between the lower legs of the two women I pointed out to you in my previous post.

If and when you'll finally do so, I think you'll finally agree that you can see the right-front tire and the hubcap of the very same MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR.

But then again, knowing you, you probably won't.

LOL!

-- Tom

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=4acfbdfe9e621853&sxsrf=AE3TifPQscII5B33689WN5ASLy4V67ymfw:1761253738909&udm=7&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZ1Y6MJ25_tmWITc7uy4KIeoJTKjrFjVxydQWqI2NcOhYPURIv2wPgv_w_sE_0Sc6QogS5TvEDp7UpbJYBVowPixqwW1m3RxusXeC54mlaBukI-u11T8A4p_RoeB8Zd5XkUrSSuQd1RmntXpoeT5OCau1r5sZxcabp8_wMX507cRuTxRAAlmoUaYXhQYLDPQWL9DB5tQ&q=%22wiegman+film%22+jfk&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYgd67nbuQAxUDiO4BHbLSG9QQtKgLegQIFxAB&biw=1592&bih=744&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:63d72787,vid:u3xR0WBPo8I,st:0



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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2025, 03:12:05 AM »

  As usual, you over complicate this issue with assorted Lego Cars, and Over Lay visual aids. How about just examining a good copy of the Wiegman Film? The Photo Gallery right here on this Forum has better Wiegman still frames of the Island than anything that you have posted thus far. This is really very simple. Examine the Real Deal. Examine the Wiegman Film itself. 

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Re: A Car, A Garden, And A Coupla Guys
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2025, 03:19:23 AM »
As usual, you over complicate this issue with assorted Lego Cars, and Over Lay visual aids. How about just examining a good copy of the Wiegman Film? The Photo Gallery right here on this Forum has better Wiegman still frames of the Island than anything that you have posted thus far. This is really very simple. Examine the Real Deal. Examine the Wiegman Film itself.

Dear Comrade Storing,

I'm not talking about James' Lego Cars.

I'm talking about his excellent overlay of a frame from the Couch clip and a frame from the Weigman clip.

Have you seen it yet?

If so, do you think he's improperly aligned them with each other?

-- Tom

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EDIT:  Oops, it looks as though I was wrong about the tire and hubcap on Storing's MYSTO "ABANDONED" GETAWAY CAR in the Wiegman clip. I thought those two women I referred to were standing on the "island," but now I realize they were standing in the street near it, so the camera's perspective of the area visible between their lower legs isn't high enough to show a tire on a car parked next to the "island," much less its hubcap.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2025, 03:53:04 AM by Tom Graves »