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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #448 on: Yesterday at 07:56:23 PM »
There's no credible reason to doubt that the two men seen fast-walking up the extension in the Gerda Dunkel zoomed slow-motion Couch/Darnell clip are Lovelady & Shelley...The men are right where they were supposed to be according to testimony...Lovelady has the same dimension geometric plaid pattern as he is seen wearing in other photos and same bald spot...And Shelley has his body shape, black suit jacket, white shirt collar, and Duck's Bahookie hair doo.....And he pulls up and talks to Karan Hicks as she goes by...Anything less strikes me as deliberate misinformation designed to confuse...

This is evidence enough for persons truly seeking correct identification...

I believe the obtaining and enhancement of the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell will show Molina as the man being called Lovelady on the steps...

Honestly Brian, you are such a massive disappointment.
I was hailed as the "new Brian Doyle" for my belief that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton. I took it as a badge of honour and that you were some renegade researcher fighting against mass hysteria.
But it turns out you're just a dick.
You have exactly the same mentality as the worst Nutters - Corbett, "Smith" and Payette. It's something I should start a thread about - people who believe that just because they think a thing means its a fact.

I would like you to stop posting on this thread as it is a genuine attempt to get to the bottom of a specific issue and you have nothing to offer other than your own, unsupported opinion.
It's funny that you think you are hounded because you are on the right trail...that's not it...it's because you are a know-nothing blowhard who believes his opinion trumps any facts.
If you have the balls for a genuine debate that involves citing sources and actually providing evidence for your claims then let's go.

"There's no credible reason to doubt that the two men seen fast-walking up the extension in the Gerda Dunkel zoomed slow-motion Couch/Darnell clip are Lovelady & Shelley"

ALL EVIDENCE relating to this issue disputes this identification of Shelley and Lovelady.
There is ZERO EVIDENCE supporting this claim.
NONE.
There is nothing in Dunkel's Couch/Darnell clip that suggests the intricate shirt detail and bald patch of Lovelady - this is a lie

"The men are right where they were supposed to be according to testimony"

Another ridiculous lie.
You say "according to testimony", Royell points out that they testified that they didn't move from the steps for at least 3 minutes and you start waffling about how they were made to lie. If they were made to lie how can it be "according to testimony"? Are you aware of the sh!t you post?

Lovelady has the same dimension geometric plaid pattern as he is seen wearing in other photos and same bald spot.

What "other photos"?
Provide these photos.
Cite these photos.
Post these photos.
Somehow support the nonsense you are posting.

.And he pulls up and talks to Karan Hicks as she goes by

I literally can't believe you keep posting this lie over and over again.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #449 on: Yesterday at 10:31:18 PM »
You can go to Bart Kamp's Prayer Man website and read his Hosty Notes section and see the notes passed muster with Pat Speer and Malcolm Blunt...The notes were posted in Hosty's book 'Assignment Oswald' and compare to other examples of Hosty's handwriting...I don't think anyone has ever challenged the authenticity of the notes being Hosty's...

This fraud has been assisted by individuals like Rob Clark, Robbie Robertson, Eli Frame, Tim Gardner, and Len Osanic...The aforementioned are persons, who although they have a modicum of assassination knowledge, all host Kamp in a fan-like manner and never question his offerings...They always host Kamp in an unquestioning way where there is no adversarial opposition to keep Kamp honest...They are persons who have the skill to put together a podcast but then host Kamp is a sycophantic manner where his claims are supported without any critical cross examination...I have been mocked and ridiculed by all the previously mentioned podcast hosts (Osanic put me on mute) because I refuted Kamp's Prayer Man theory...The reason for this is those podcast hosts rely on gang-like grouping up and favoritism in order to compensate for their lack of research skill that led to them backing the hoax researcher Kamp and his bogus Prayer Man theory...They operate like a pack of school yard bullies who use Kamp as a leg up in the research world...They don't care if the evidence shows Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...Again, the clique serves to prevent good research more than encourage it no matter how much they flatter themselves on censorship protected sites...

Pat Speer used the fact I can't defend myself to mock my not being allowed back on The Education Forum...He humiliated me and made me look like an idiot who didn't pass muster who was justly denied...A "sorry Charlie" kind of thing that he took pleasure in doing while defending the clique...He then lied and said I stole my Prayer Man stuff from him and falsely used it as reasoning why I wasn't fit for membership on The Education Forum...The Prayer Man people are fully aware my Prayer Man material is quite my own and many orders of magnitude better than Speer's weak offerings...In fact my material is subject-leading and quite conclusive...The Prayer Man clique is dirty and won't correct Speer on his slanderous false accusation...These are the site's preferred members and methods...

When I Private Messaged Ciphered Past to request fair air time to defend myself I was threatened with legal action for harassment and stalking...And this was for a simple fair playing field reply request on my first contact on a public podcast that always includes the invitation for the public to contact them and add information they think would be helpful on each episode...They request correcting information that would help the show and then when you reach out to them, after being unfairly slandered and ridiculed on the air, their first response is to threaten you with legal action...Bush league hacks and clique boys running a bully club...

         You need a "Kamp Intervention". The above proves this is imperative.

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How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #450 on: Today at 06:07:52 PM »
Dan:

It is understood amongst credible researchers that Lovelady & Shelley were gotten to lie and push back their departure time from the front steps to 3 minutes after the shots in order to make Victoria Adams look silly and to destroy her witnessing of Oswald not being on the Northwest steps when the official story needed him to be...There's some basic rules of evidence you are violating here...We can see Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension in Couch/Darnell so therefore visual film evidence trumps testimony and shows that Lovelady & Shelley left the steps around 20 seconds after the shots when they were inspired by Calvery to go up to the Knoll and see for themselves...You are violating the rules of evidence as well as rational thought because we can see Lovelady & Shelley going up the extension in Couch/Darnell and it tells us what the true version is...

The version Bart Kamp used was the Sprague copy...Obviously Sprague used the best enhancement technology of his day which was probably limited to brightness and zoom...One thing is clear though, Sprague used the original celluloid films as his source, as is evidenced by the fact Kamp was able to get the best detail in his enhancements...That best source that Kamp accessed was able to produce the visible details seen on Lovelady & Shelley as well as Lovelady's bald spot...Lovelady's plaid pattern is a geometric match and matches his plaid shirt pattern precisely...That is a dead-lock that makes the sincerity of what you offer suspect...No serious researcher would doubt the men being Lovelady & Shelley at that point...

This was all in the hands of Larry Schnapf who could have gotten the 1st generation 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell simply by asking...Schnapf went on the Education Forum and explained why he wasn't going to request the 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy...The words Schnapf spoke to describe his reasoning were words that came directly from the Prayer Man gang and their shameless suborning of perjury before Congress...Because the Task Force was not able to obtain the original Wiegman and Darnell films the 6th Floor Museum copy then became the best available copy of Darnell...This was proven by the fact you can see Sarah Stanton's dress neckline on Prayer Man in that copy...So no credible researcher would ever make a case for not obtaining the best copy...Obtaining the best copy is an unspoken thing amongst credible researchers...It is only the Prayer Man-hijacked JFK internet that would make a case for NOT obtaining that copy...And the way they achieve that is by banning, ostracize-ing, and censoring those researchers who question it...The Education Forum is a fraudulent website, as are its administrators...The effort to NOT obtain the 6th Floor Museum copy is a disingenuous one whose sole purpose is to avoid producing evidence that Jim DiEugenio is a fool who promotes already-disproven theories before Congress...Iler is a greasy fixer who makes grandiose rules designed to bail out his partner DiEugenio and avoid the correct evidence...It is this copy that will better show Lovelady, Shelley, and Molina...

The mark is already set and we await the obtaining and scanning of the 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell...


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