How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[John Corbett]

Clique-favored Bart Kamp has been allowed readmission to The Education Forum...

Like DiEugenio, Kamp shows ability in deep research and extensive digging in to assassination information...Since I am honest I have to admit I use Kamp as a source on some assassination matters and his research is helpful at times...My pique with Kamp is that he tends to use that extensive research to reach quack conclusions and misses what his research is really leading to and insists on gang-like conduct in forcing through wrong claims...So the correct explanation of Kamp and his research is it is useful in learning about certain assassination subjects but then needs final correction away from the false conclusions he almost always draws...Kamp is a practice-er of Greg Parker crank research...The average JFK internet member gets impressed by extensive research but then fails to fact-check (See 'Ciphered Past')...

The reason Kamp has been allowed back on The Education Forum is because the Prayer Man people have hijacked the JFK internet and they have taken final control of the JFK internet through DiEugenio proxy Andrew Iler...The "reformation" of The Education Forum is carefully allowing all those who support the Prayer Man theory back on the board and it is corruptedly not allowing the best and brightest who are capable of refuting it..."The Moderation Team" is bullying those people and censoring them with false moderation...

If you are smart you will realize that the reason Kamp opened his re-admission to The Education Forum with a paper on Oswald in Finland and not his eponymous Prayer Man theory is because he knows I have refuted that notorious theory and he doesn't believe in it himself...It stands true that the Prayer Man theory only exists in places where corruption censors those who can refute it...I owe gratitude to Kamp because if he hadn't provoked me to refute that bogus theory then I would not have discovered the conspiracy break-through of our generation...

If you ever had a real breakthrough, it would quickly become national news. In reality it is just another one of hundreds, if not thousands of kook theories that have been proposed over he tlast six decades that combined don't amount ot a hill of beans.

Sorry. Just being honest.

[Brian Doyle]

No, that makes sense because you know how honest The Education Forum and Mainstream Media have been on the subject up to now...

James Hosty told Nigel Turner that "Oswald told us he was alone in the Lunch Room during the assassination"...

I have yet to get an answer from Bart Kamp why Hosty left such an important statement out of his notes?...

And I have yet to get an answer how that relates to Buell Frazier saying a Depository employee told him a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple were seen on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination...

And why couldn't Frazier name that employee?...

[Royell Storing]

No, that makes sense because you know how honest The Education Forum and Mainstream Media have been on the subject up to now...

James Hosty told Nigel Turner that "Oswald told us he was alone in the Lunch Room during the assassination"...

I have yet to get an answer from Bart Kamp why Hosty left such an important statement out of his notes?...

And I have yet to get an answer how that relates to Buell Frazier saying a Depository employee told him a partly-eaten cheese sandwich and apple were seen on the 2nd Floor Lunch Room table after the assassination...

And why couldn't Frazier name that employee?...

    Has any handwriting "expert" ever verified that the notes on the back of the DPD Affidavit Form were those of Agent Hosty? All of the Kamp "Prayer Man" stuff traces back to that affidavit and Oswald allegedly claiming he was Outside watching the, "Pre Parade". Those alleged "notes" are the foundation for the Kamp Claim of Oswald being Prayer Man.

[Brian Doyle]

    Has any handwriting "expert" ever verified that the notes on the back of the DPD Affidavit Form were those of Agent Hosty? All of the Kamp "Prayer Man" stuff traces back to that affidavit and Oswald allegedly claiming he was Outside watching the, "Pre Parade". Those alleged "notes" are the foundation for the Kamp Claim of Oswald being Prayer Man.

   Not that I know of...I have been telling Kamp for 10 years that he is misrepresenting the context of Hosty's notes that he is showing...Kamp dishonestly insists that the notes show that Oswald was out on the front steps during the assassination as Prayer Man and he is presenting this as conclusive proof...If you observe Fritz and Bookhout's notes Fritz's inclusion of "When Officer Came In" calibrates the notes to 90 seconds after the shots when Baker confronted Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...Once a dubious researcher like Kamp makes such a complex false claim it is difficult to undo it because it takes so much correction...However it is easy to see that all 3 sets of notes from the 3pm Interrogation all start at 90 seconds after the shots at the Lunch Room Encounter...All 3 go downstairs to eat lunch, and all 3 then go out with Shelley on the front steps...Therefore the part of Hosty's notes quoted by Kamp occurs 4 minutes after the shots and cannot be used as evidence for Oswald being Prayer Man...Kamp is quite aware of this but he dishonestly ignores it and in doing so has tied up the entire research community in a BS theory fully endorsed by the fool Jim DiEugenio...When Hosty writes "Went out to watch Presidential Parade" he is talking about 4 minutes after the shots...Kamp is clearly committing a false reference there and refuses to listen to the correct interpretation...He has a whole internet of supporters who help him with this deliberate deception...

The true interpretation is seen in Fritz's testimony to the Commission where he told Ball that Oswald told them he was eating a cheese sandwich and apple in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...Obviously, Oswald told this to the 3pm Interrogation and this is why the notes were torn up and the lie was formulated that they took no notes Texas style...Oswald told the 3pm Interrogation that he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and that caused a major problem that was solved by the present notes that conspicuously omit this admission like an obvious glaring donut hole exactly in the right place in the existing notes...Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty solved this problem by starting their notes 90 seconds after the shots at the Lunch Room Encounter and therefore omitting Oswald being in the in the Lunch Room during the assassination right before it...When you look at the existing notes you can't unsee this...Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty all clumsily excised this admission from their notes and it stands out like a sore thumb...It is this correct explanation that Kamp refuses to allow and in doing so, and sticking to his bogus Prayer Man theory, both he and DiEugenio, and the sycophants who support them, are holding up a final solving of the conspiracy...

All 3 sets of notes wrote about being with Shelley out front in vague terms because Oswald was covering up the fact Shelley helped him around the cop at the front door who told Oswald to step aside and stay put...Shelley saw Oswald was in trouble and helped him around the police detainment at the front door and out the back...So the 3pm Interrogation notes had two major problems they needed to bury and what you see is how they did it...They simply removed Oswald telling them he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...And they blurred Shelley helping Oswald out the rear exit after a cop told him to step aside at the front door...Kamp helps muddy all this and serves to inhibit the solving of the case because he can't break off his juvenile attachment to this Prayer Man BS...

[Royell Storing]

   Not that I know of...I have been telling Kamp for 10 years that he is misrepresenting the context of Hosty's notes that he is showing...Kamp dishonestly insists that the notes show that Oswald was out on the front steps during the assassination as Prayer Man and he is presenting this as conclusive proof...If you observe Fritz and Bookhout's notes Fritz's inclusion of "When Officer Came In" calibrates the notes to 90 seconds after the shots when Baker confronted Oswald in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room...Once a dubious researcher like Kamp makes such a complex false claim it is difficult to undo it because it takes so much correction...However it is easy to see that all 3 sets of notes from the 3pm Interrogation all start at 90 seconds after the shots at the Lunch Room Encounter...All 3 go downstairs to eat lunch, and all 3 then go out with Shelley on the front steps...Therefore the part of Hosty's notes quoted by Kamp occurs 4 minutes after the shots and cannot be used as evidence for Oswald being Prayer Man...Kamp is quite aware of this but he dishonestly ignores it and in doing so has tied up the entire research community in a BS theory fully endorsed by the fool Jim DiEugenio...When Hosty writes "Went out to watch Presidential Parade" he is talking about 4 minutes after the shots...Kamp is clearly committing a false reference there and refuses to listen to the correct interpretation...He has a whole internet of supporters who help him with this deliberate deception...

The true interpretation is seen in Fritz's testimony to the Commission where he told Ball that Oswald told them he was eating a cheese sandwich and apple in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...Obviously, Oswald told this to the 3pm Interrogation and this is why the notes were torn up and the lie was formulated that they took no notes Texas style...Oswald told the 3pm Interrogation that he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination and that caused a major problem that was solved by the present notes that conspicuously omit this admission like an obvious glaring donut hole exactly in the right place in the existing notes...Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty solved this problem by starting their notes 90 seconds after the shots at the Lunch Room Encounter and therefore omitting Oswald being in the in the Lunch Room during the assassination right before it...When you look at the existing notes you can't unsee this...Fritz, Bookhout, and Hosty all clumsily excised this admission from their notes and it stands out like a sore thumb...It is this correct explanation that Kamp refuses to allow and in doing so, and sticking to his bogus Prayer Man theory, both he and DiEugenio, and the sycophants who support them, are holding up a final solving of the conspiracy...

All 3 sets of notes wrote about being with Shelley out front in vague terms because Oswald was covering up the fact Shelley helped him around the cop at the front door who told Oswald to step aside and stay put...Shelley saw Oswald was in trouble and helped him around the police detainment at the front door and out the back...So the 3pm Interrogation notes had two major problems they needed to bury and what you see is how they did it...They simply removed Oswald telling them he was eating lunch in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the shots...And they blurred Shelley helping Oswald out the rear exit after a cop told him to step aside at the front door...Kamp helps muddy all this and serves to inhibit the solving of the case because he can't break off his juvenile attachment to this Prayer Man BS...

   Why were the alleged "Hosty Notes" NOT verified? This should have been Step 1 after the Notes were allegedly discovered by Kamp. Once again, the JFK Assassination Research Community has fallen on its' Bahookie.

[Brian Doyle]

You can go to Bart Kamp's Prayer Man website and read his Hosty Notes section and see the notes passed muster with Pat Speer and Malcolm Blunt...The notes were posted in Hosty's book 'Assignment Oswald' and compare to other examples of Hosty's handwriting...I don't think anyone has ever challenged the authenticity of the notes being Hosty's...

This fraud has been assisted by individuals like Rob Clark, Robbie Robertson, Eli Frame, Tim Gardner, and Len Osanic...The aforementioned are persons, who although they have a modicum of assassination knowledge, all host Kamp in a fan-like manner and never question his offerings...They always host Kamp in an unquestioning way where there is no adversarial opposition to keep Kamp honest...They are persons who have the skill to put together a podcast but then host Kamp is a sycophantic manner where his claims are supported without any critical cross examination...I have been mocked and ridiculed by all the previously mentioned podcast hosts (Osanic put me on mute) because I refuted Kamp's Prayer Man theory...The reason for this is those podcast hosts rely on gang-like grouping up and favoritism in order to compensate for their lack of research skill that led to them backing the hoax researcher Kamp and his bogus Prayer Man theory...They operate like a pack of school yard bullies who use Kamp as a leg up in the research world...They don't care if the evidence shows Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton...Again, the clique serves to prevent good research more than encourage it no matter how much they flatter themselves on censorship protected sites...

Pat Speer used the fact I can't defend myself to mock my not being allowed back on The Education Forum...He humiliated me and made me look like an idiot who didn't pass muster who was justly denied...A "sorry Charlie" kind of thing that he took pleasure in doing while defending the clique...He then lied and said I stole my Prayer Man stuff from him and falsely used it as reasoning why I wasn't fit for membership on The Education Forum...The Prayer Man people are fully aware my Prayer Man material is quite my own and many orders of magnitude better than Speer's weak offerings...In fact my material is subject-leading and quite conclusive...The Prayer Man clique is dirty and won't correct Speer on his slanderous false accusation...These are the site's preferred members and methods...

When I Private Messaged Ciphered Past to request fair air time to defend myself I was threatened with legal action for harassment and stalking...And this was for a simple fair playing field reply request on my first contact on a public podcast that always includes the invitation for the public to contact them and add information they think would be helpful on each episode...They request correcting information that would help the show and then when you reach out to them, after being unfairly slandered and ridiculed on the air, their first response is to threaten you with legal action...Bush league hacks and clique boys running a bully club...