How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Brian Doyle]

You have a man whose body type obviously isn't Shelley labeled Shelley...That's bad research...It shows a lack of competency I'm afraid...That man's body type is obviously too Endomorphic to be Shelley...

Shelley is the man going up the extension with Lovelady...

[John Corbett]

You have a man whose body type obviously isn't Shelley labeled Shelley...That's bad research...It shows a lack of competency I'm afraid...That man's body type is obviously too Endomorphic to be Shelley...

Shelley is the man going up the extension with Lovelady...

This conversation reminds me of something my old football coach used to tell us when we were screwing up at practice. He said, "You guys look like a bunch of monkeys trying to f*** a football".

[Brian Doyle]

The research community uses false issues to hide the fact it isn't pursuing the best evidence...If you think that it is an innocent coincidence that the research community isn't pursuing the best Prayer Man images then you don't have a good sense of how things are run...Andrew Iler talks a strong talk but he doesn't answer how the people he favors are holding back on pursuing the best Prayer Man imagery...There are plenty of people who are capable of accessing the best images of Molina on the steps in front of Calvery but they are not doing a thing and they are being protected by persons like Iler who talk a strong talk on such dishonest practices but then help them along without skipping a beat...Andrew is a big man but a credible research site allows true free speech and makes him answer things like this instead of beating up on the low hanging fruit from the easy position of moderator...Bart Kamp is the worst offender in this regard and, because of this biased protection, the public doesn't detect how much evidence has been dishonestly held back by Kamp...Kamp is well capable of producing those clearer, best images but offers blurry images instead because he can conceal his deception within that planned obscurity...There is no protest from Iler about this and no threats from the newly reformed administrative position...This trainwreck of corruption has led to The Education Forum itself that succeeds at the illusion of having offered the best research when in fact this dishonest curve of corruption and omission is directly responsible for preventing a solving of the conspiracy...The research community is moribund with the same few researchers that have way too much power...The best and brightest are muted and we are forced to listen to those who benefit the most from the corruption and their hypocritical complaints...

[Royell Storing]

The research community uses false issues to hide the fact it isn't pursuing the best evidence...If you think that it is an innocent coincidence that the research community isn't pursuing the best Prayer Man images then you don't have a good sense of how things are run...Andrew Iler talks a strong talk but he doesn't answer how the people he favors are holding back on pursuing the best Prayer Man imagery...There are plenty of people who are capable of accessing the best images of Molina on the steps in front of Calvery but they are not doing a thing and they are being protected by persons like Iler who talk a strong talk on such dishonest practices but then help them along without skipping a beat...Andrew is a big man but a credible research site allows true free speech and makes him answer things like this instead of beating up on the low hanging fruit from the easy position of moderator...Bart Kamp is the worst offender in this regard and, because of this biased protection, the public doesn't detect how much evidence has been dishonestly held back by Kamp...Kamp is well capable of producing those clearer, best images but offers blurry images instead because he can conceal his deception within that planned obscurity...There is no protest from Iler about this and no threats from the newly reformed administrative position...This trainwreck of corruption has led to The Education Forum itself that succeeds at the illusion of having offered the best research when in fact this dishonest curve of corruption and omission is directly responsible for preventing a solving of the conspiracy...The research community is moribund with the same few researchers that have way too much power...The best and brightest are muted and we are forced to listen to those who benefit the most from the corruption and their hypocritical complaints...

   People having better images than the images available to the general public has been going on for 62+ years. Stop with your never ending 

[Royell Storing]

You have a man whose body type obviously isn't Shelley labeled Shelley...That's bad research...It shows a lack of competency I'm afraid...That man's body type is obviously too Endomorphic to be Shelley...

Shelley is the man going up the extension with Lovelady...

    You continue running away from the Lovelady Image. The still frame above shows him still standing on the TSBD steps in almost the same exact position we see him on Altgens 6. And the image above is only just over :20 seconds after the kill shot. Either grow some stones and propose changing the accepted time stamping or drop your disproven position.

[Dan O'meara]

Front entry doesn't make sense because it doesn't line up with Adams & Styles' descent of the steps or Truly & Bakers' entry in to the First Floor...

As can be seen in Couch/Darnell, Lovelady & Shelley are headed up to the Train Yard where they went back in to the Depository through the west entry doors...

Obviously, Adams & Styles squeaked out the rear exit just before Truly & Baker ran in and were on the stairs just ahead of where Oswald needed to be in his alleged run down from the 6th Floor...It was actually Mrs Garner who was the one who should have seen and heard Oswald but didn't from her spot on the 4th Floor landing...

Obviously, Adams & Styles squeaked out the rear exit just before Truly & Baker ran in...

This is really bizarre.
I completely agree that Adams and Styles "squeaked out the rear exit" just before Truly and Baker arrived at the area near the freight elevators on the first floor.
The Dillard picture proves Adams had left her position by the fourth floor window within 15 seconds of the final shot.
She stated that before the limo had even reached the underpass she had decided to get down there.
She consistently insisted that she ran all the way down, placing her on the first floor within 60 seconds of the shot, if not sooner.

The thing I don't understand is this, Brian, and maybe you can invent something else to account for this:
When Adams hit the first floor within 60 seconds of the shooting she saw Shelley and Lovelady not far from the elevators as she raced by. She even tried to interact with them but they didn't respond.
Truly and Baker arrived at the same location seconds later where Baker reported two white men (who can only be Shelley and Lovelady) hanging around that area.
How is it possible for the two men you claim to be Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm Street extension, get to the area near the elevators on the first floor where they were observed by Adams and Baker, within 60 seconds of the shooting?
Do you even realise how you are contradicting yourself?

[Royell Storing]

Obviously, Adams & Styles squeaked out the rear exit just before Truly & Baker ran in...

This is really bizarre.
I completely agree that Adams and Styles "squeaked out the rear exit" just before Truly and Baker arrived at the area near the freight elevators on the first floor.
The Dillard picture proves Adams had left her position by the fourth floor window within 15 seconds of the final shot.
She stated that before the limo had even reached the underpass she had decided to get down there.
She consistently insisted that she ran all the way down, placing her on the first floor within 60 seconds of the shot, if not sooner.

The thing I don't understand is this, Brian, and maybe you can invent something else to account for this:
When Adams hit the first floor within 60 seconds of the shooting she saw Shelley and Lovelady not far from the elevators as she raced by. She even tried to interact with them but they didn't respond.
Truly and Baker arrived at the same location seconds later where Baker reported two white men (who can only be Shelley and Lovelady) hanging around that area.
How is it possible for the two men you claim to be Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm Street extension, get to the area near the elevators on the first floor where they were observed by Adams and Baker, within 60 seconds of the shooting?
Do you even realise how you are contradicting yourself?

    The Darnell/Couch film images that show Officer Baker running across the Island, have been given a time stamp of ":20 seconds after the kill shot". Do you agree with that :20 second time stamp?
    That :20 time stamp jams up Shelley and Lovelady being at the TSBD 1st floor freight elevator at Under 1:00 after the kill shot. This "under 1:00 minute" is when they allegedly were seen by Adams when she reached the TSBD 1st floor. The faster You have Adams reaching the TSBD 1st floor, you then are placing Shelley and Lovelady at that same 1st floor location even quicker. And Adams makes no mention of Shelley and Lovelady being in motion, as if Shelley and Lovelady were just arriving when she saw them. They were in position on the 1st floor when she saw them. The still frame you have posted shows Shelley being on the ground in front of the TSBD. This would be at :25 seconds after the kill shot, leaving LESS than :35 seconds for Shelley to go from the ground: (1) up through the very crowded TSBD front steps, (2) through the crowded TSBD Lobby, (3) unlocking the Closed Gate at the desk, (4) traveling across the TSBD 1st Floor, (5) arriving at the freight elevator. Again, ALL of this in Under :35 seconds. And, ALL of this is if Shelley IMMEDIATELY left his position on the still frame you posted. To me, this is far to fast for Shelley to do ALL of this largely due to his NOT being in motion on the still frame you have posted. The Shelley figure is at a Dead Stop and does Not look to be in any kind of a hurry. The same goes for Lovelady. The Tick/Tock here does does fit if you buy into the :20 seconds after the kill shot being tied to Officer Baker running across the Island. That :20 second timestamp is when the Shelley and Lovelady clock begins running. 
    This is why I continue to encourage you to do a thread on the subject of Shelley and Lovelady going through the TSBD front door. This is your very own unique idea, but it does have time stamping issues that You need to iron out.