How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Brian Doyle]

    Give O'meara the opportunity to present his case. It is Compelling and New. There is seldom anything New presented in the JFK Assassination. His Shelley/Lovelady "front door" scenario merits serious consideration.

You would probably find the work of Ralph Cinque entertaining then...

Meanwhile the two men crank researcher Bart Kamp shows going up the extension are obviously Lovelady & Shelley...

The names shown in your image are misleading and don't help establish a credible understanding of the assassination...

[Royell Storing]

You would probably find the work of Ralph Cinque entertaining then...

Meanwhile the two men crank researcher Bart Kamp shows going up the extension are obviously Lovelady & Shelley...

The names shown in your image are misleading and don't help establish a credible understanding of the assassination...

    You obviously are Not familiar with the work of O'meara. Otherwise, you would Not be comparing it to Cinque. O'meara posts the above still frame and what image evidence do You post in retort? Zippo! There are several posters on this Forum I frequently disagree with. Still, I do respect the work they do and the research time they put into it. You proffer nothing physically or of mental substance to this unsolved murder case. You're ALL noise. Stop your whining about whatever might have happened to you over on the Ed Forum  and submit a solid contribution here.

[Brian Doyle]

You have a man whose body type obviously isn't Shelley labeled Shelley...That's bad research...It shows a lack of competency I'm afraid...That man's body type is obviously too Endomorphic to be Shelley...

Shelley is the man going up the extension with Lovelady...

[John Corbett]

You have a man whose body type obviously isn't Shelley labeled Shelley...That's bad research...It shows a lack of competency I'm afraid...That man's body type is obviously too Endomorphic to be Shelley...

Shelley is the man going up the extension with Lovelady...

This conversation reminds me of something my old football coach used to tell us when we were screwing up at practice. He said, "You guys look like a bunch of monkeys trying to f*** a football".

[Brian Doyle]

The research community uses false issues to hide the fact it isn't pursuing the best evidence...If you think that it is an innocent coincidence that the research community isn't pursuing the best Prayer Man images then you don't have a good sense of how things are run...Andrew Iler talks a strong talk but he doesn't answer how the people he favors are holding back on pursuing the best Prayer Man imagery...There are plenty of people who are capable of accessing the best images of Molina on the steps in front of Calvery but they are not doing a thing and they are being protected by persons like Iler who talk a strong talk on such dishonest practices but then help them along without skipping a beat...Andrew is a big man but a credible research site allows true free speech and makes him answer things like this instead of beating up on the low hanging fruit from the easy position of moderator...Bart Kamp is the worst offender in this regard and, because of this biased protection, the public doesn't detect how much evidence has been dishonestly held back by Kamp...Kamp is well capable of producing those clearer, best images but offers blurry images instead because he can conceal his deception within that planned obscurity...There is no protest from Iler about this and no threats from the newly reformed administrative position...This trainwreck of corruption has led to The Education Forum itself that succeeds at the illusion of having offered the best research when in fact this dishonest curve of corruption and omission is directly responsible for preventing a solving of the conspiracy...The research community is moribund with the same few researchers that have way too much power...The best and brightest are muted and we are forced to listen to those who benefit the most from the corruption and their hypocritical complaints...

[Royell Storing]

The research community uses false issues to hide the fact it isn't pursuing the best evidence...If you think that it is an innocent coincidence that the research community isn't pursuing the best Prayer Man images then you don't have a good sense of how things are run...Andrew Iler talks a strong talk but he doesn't answer how the people he favors are holding back on pursuing the best Prayer Man imagery...There are plenty of people who are capable of accessing the best images of Molina on the steps in front of Calvery but they are not doing a thing and they are being protected by persons like Iler who talk a strong talk on such dishonest practices but then help them along without skipping a beat...Andrew is a big man but a credible research site allows true free speech and makes him answer things like this instead of beating up on the low hanging fruit from the easy position of moderator...Bart Kamp is the worst offender in this regard and, because of this biased protection, the public doesn't detect how much evidence has been dishonestly held back by Kamp...Kamp is well capable of producing those clearer, best images but offers blurry images instead because he can conceal his deception within that planned obscurity...There is no protest from Iler about this and no threats from the newly reformed administrative position...This trainwreck of corruption has led to The Education Forum itself that succeeds at the illusion of having offered the best research when in fact this dishonest curve of corruption and omission is directly responsible for preventing a solving of the conspiracy...The research community is moribund with the same few researchers that have way too much power...The best and brightest are muted and we are forced to listen to those who benefit the most from the corruption and their hypocritical complaints...

   People having better images than the images available to the general public has been going on for 62+ years. Stop with your never ending 

[Royell Storing]

Dan is ignoring that those two are exactly where they are supposed to be according to testimony after leaving the steps...

There's no point getting bogged down with everything that is wrong with this post but this last observation needs addressing.
Apparently it's me, ands not Brian, who is ignoring the WC testimony of Shelley and Lovelady.
Let's start with the fact that BOTH MEN testify that they didn't leave the steps for at least three minutes!!
How can they be on the extension seconds after the shooting??
I would really like to hear what Brian is going to make up off the top of his head to account for this.

BOTH MEN testify that, after three minutes, Gloria comes up to the steps, tells them about the shooting after which both of them make their way across the Elm Street extension to the "little, old island" (both men use exactly the same phrase to describe the concrete spur separating the Elm Streets), where they stopped "for a minute".

So, the image of the two men walking down the extension is taken 20 - 25 seconds after the shooting.
In this short span of time, according to Brian, Gloria has made her way back to the TSBD steps, told everyone about the shooting, both men have made their way across to the little old island, hung around there for a while, then made it half way down the extension before being caught on film.
Let's do him a favour and ignore the three minutes it takes Gloria to reach the steps and the time spent on the little, old island.
Even if we ignore all the testimony that Brian seems so willing to do, is it still physically possible for the two men to be so far down the extension, after the sequence of events described, in such a short span of time?
Let's be ultra kind to Brian and make it like some mad kind of tag race  being run at top speed:
1] Gloria sprints full tilt and makes it back to the steps within 15 seconds
2] She spits out a rapid-fire account of the shooting in 5 seconds
3] Shelley and Lovelady sprint across to the little old island - 3 seconds.
4] They stay there for 5 seconds
5] They then sprint to their positions on the Elm Street extension - another 3 seconds.

They still don't make it in time.
Even if we follow Brian's lead and ignore nearly every statement they made in their WC testimonies, Shelley and Lovelady still don't make it.

The reason for this is obvious - it's not Shelley and Lovelady on the Elm Street extension.
In reality, what happens is this
Shelley and Lovelady are on the steps at the time of the shooting.
Immediately after the shots Shelley runs out to the concrete spur where he encounters a distraught Gloria Calvery running the other way.
Both return to the front steps where Gloria tells everyone there about the shooting after which both Shelley and Lovelady make their way into the building through the front door.

Gloria reaches the steps in a matter seconds - not 3 minutes.
Both men do not then go across to the little, old island.
Both men do not wander along the extension.
Both men do not hang around the railroad yards.
Both men do not enter the building through the west door.
These are all lies told to hide their actual movements after the shooting.

Both men immediately enter the building and make their way towards the back of the first floor where they are seen by Vickie Adams about 60 seconds after the shooting.
Seconds later Baker and Truly arrive at the elevators where Baker notices two white men just hanging around. Clearly this is Shelley and Lovelady.



The image above shows the moment Gloria has reached the steps and is telling everyone about the shooting.
The man in front of her is Billy Lovelady.
Shelley, wearing his baggy black suit, is near the bottom of the steps after returning from the concrete spur.

  BUMP