How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Brian Doyle]

It is generally understood that the plotters of the conspiracy went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to lie and say they left the front steps 3 minutes after the shots because they were trying to doctor Victoria Adams' testimony in order to push it back 3 minutes in order to give Oswald time to make it down the steps...Adams was a problem because she and Styles did not see Oswald running down the NW steps...The plotters knew this so they went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to push their times back in order to make Adams look stupid...They hadn't considered anyone closely examining Couch/Darnell at that time and seeing Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension revealing the true time...In 1974 Dallas reporter Dean Glaze got Shelley to admit that he was CIA...The rest is academic...Shelley was a major part of the conspiracy in the Lobby and guided Armstrong's "Harvey" out the back after being stopped at the front door by a cop...That is why Shelley was mentioned in Fritz's notes - but only in the context of being out front in the Lobby with Shelley 4 or 5 minutes after the shots...Kamp misrepresents that as being out front with Shelley during the shots...Kamp is a liar...

Couch/Darnell is film evidence anyone can see with their own eyes...Lovelady & Shelley's 3 minute lie is no valid substitute for what is more than obviously shown in Couch/Darnell...Stubbornly repeating it over and over while ignoring the plainly-visible evidence is not a credible research practice...Once you've proven Lovelady & Shelley are the men on the extension then the man in front of Calvery on the steps automatically becomes Molina...

[Royell Storing]

It is generally understood that the plotters of the conspiracy went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to lie and say they left the front steps 3 minutes after the shots because they were trying to doctor Victoria Adams' testimony in order to push it back 3 minutes in order to give Oswald time to make it down the steps...Adams was a problem because she and Styles did not see Oswald running down the NW steps...The plotters knew this so they went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to push their times back in order to make Adams look stupid...They hadn't considered anyone closely examining Couch/Darnell at that time and seeing Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension revealing the true time...In 1974 Dallas reporter Dean Glaze got Shelley to admit that he was CIA...The rest is academic...Shelley was a major part of the conspiracy in the Lobby and guided Armstrong's "Harvey" out the back after being stopped at the front door by a cop...That is why Shelley was mentioned in Fritz's notes - but only in the context of being out front in the Lobby with Shelley 4 or 5 minutes after the shots...Kamp misrepresents that as being out front with Shelley during the shots...Kamp is a liar...

Couch/Darnell is film evidence anyone can see with their own eyes...Lovelady & Shelley's 3 minute lie is no valid substitute for what is more than obviously shown in Couch/Darnell...Stubbornly repeating it over and over while ignoring the plainly-visible evidence is not a credible research practice...Once you've proven Lovelady & Shelley are the men on the extension then the man in front of Calvery on the steps automatically becomes Molina...

   "Generally Understood..............." ??  STOP with the Ed Forum clap trap. Present your Evidence. We'll let you know.

[Brian Doyle]

   "Generally Understood..............." ??  STOP with the Ed Forum clap trap. Present your Evidence. We'll let you know.

The film evidence has the final say (along with Graves lol)...

[Royell Storing]

The film evidence has the final say (along with Graves lol)...

  "Film evidence has the FINAL say" ??  You're the guy claiming the "Film Evidence" was altered. Now you wanna claim that the film evidence has the "FINAL Say"? You're all over the place.

[Dan O'meara]

It is generally understood that the plotters of the conspiracy went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to lie and say they left the front steps 3 minutes after the shots because they were trying to doctor Victoria Adams' testimony in order to push it back 3 minutes in order to give Oswald time to make it down the steps...Adams was a problem because she and Styles did not see Oswald running down the NW steps...The plotters knew this so they went to Lovelady & Shelley and got them to push their times back in order to make Adams look stupid...They hadn't considered anyone closely examining Couch/Darnell at that time and seeing Lovelady & Shelley fast-walking up the extension revealing the true time...In 1974 Dallas reporter Dean Glaze got Shelley to admit that he was CIA...The rest is academic...Shelley was a major part of the conspiracy in the Lobby and guided Armstrong's "Harvey" out the back after being stopped at the front door by a cop...That is why Shelley was mentioned in Fritz's notes - but only in the context of being out front in the Lobby with Shelley 4 or 5 minutes after the shots...Kamp misrepresents that as being out front with Shelley during the shots...Kamp is a liar...

Couch/Darnell is film evidence anyone can see with their own eyes...Lovelady & Shelley's 3 minute lie is no valid substitute for what is more than obviously shown in Couch/Darnell...Stubbornly repeating it over and over while ignoring the plainly-visible evidence is not a credible research practice...Once you've proven Lovelady & Shelley are the men on the extension then the man in front of Calvery on the steps automatically becomes Molina...

.Kamp is a liar...

As Royell correctly points out, you really are all over the place.
You constantly discredit Kamp yet your identification of Lovelady in Darnell is based solely on his work.
One minute you're saying that conspirators made Shelley lie then you're saying Shelley is one of the conspirators!
You constantly insist the man on the steps is Molina, when the man isn't wearing a white shirt and Molina specifically testifies that he had no interaction with anyone on the steps.
Take a deep breath and have a little think about the evidence.

[Royell Storing]

.Kamp is a liar...

As Royell correctly points out, you really are all over the place.
You constantly discredit Kamp yet your identification of Lovelady in Darnell is based solely on his work.
One minute you're saying that conspirators made Shelley lie then you're saying Shelley is one of the conspirators!
You constantly insist the man on the steps is Molina, when the man isn't wearing a white shirt and Molina specifically testifies that he had no interaction with anyone on the steps.
Take a deep breath and have a little think about the evidence.

   I continue looking forward to your fleshing out your theory that Shelley/Lovelady entered the TSBD through the front door. That's an original concept and does answer many timeline issues.

[Brian Doyle]

Front entry doesn't make sense because it doesn't line up with Adams & Styles' descent of the steps or Truly & Bakers' entry in to the First Floor...

As can be seen in Couch/Darnell, Lovelady & Shelley are headed up to the Train Yard where they went back in to the Depository through the west entry doors...

Obviously, Adams & Styles squeaked out the rear exit just before Truly & Baker ran in and were on the stairs just ahead of where Oswald needed to be in his alleged run down from the 6th Floor...It was actually Mrs Garner who was the one who should have seen and heard Oswald but didn't from her spot on the 4th Floor landing...