How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #224 on: March 28, 2026, 01:42:42 PM »
Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:



   This is a Darnell Film still frame showing the front of the TSBD only 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the (L) we see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Between Officer Baker and that TSBD front door, we see BILLY LOVELADY. Lovelady is standing in almost the very same spot we see him on the classic Altgens photo. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady and Officer Baker 20 seconds after the kill.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #225 on: March 28, 2026, 01:50:19 PM »
   This is a Darnell Film still frame showing the front of the TSBD only 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the (L) we see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Between Officer Baker and that TSBD front door, we see BILLY LOVELADY. Lovelady is standing in almost the very same spot we see him on the classic Altgens photo. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady and Officer Baker 20 seconds after the kill.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #226 on: March 28, 2026, 01:51:00 PM »
Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

    This is a Couch Film still frame. It happened at 20 seconds after the kill shot. On the extreme (R) you see Officer Baker running toward the TSBD front door. Behind Officer Baker, we see "2 Guys" moving away from a parked car. In front of Officer Baker, standing on the TSBD front steps, is BILLY LOVELADY. It is Physically Impossible for either of the "2 Guys" we see behind Officer Baker to be Bill Lovelady. Billy Lovelady can Not be in 2 places at the same time.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #227 on: March 28, 2026, 01:59:05 PM »
Common Sense tells us it is impossible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps, tell everyone there about the assassination, after which Shelley and Lovelady are pictured walking down the Elm St Ext.
100% that did not happen.
Trolls like Tom are not interested in Common Sense or what's possible in reality.
As far as he is concerned, Kamp has magically produced an image of Lovelady and no amount of evidence can change what's left of his mind.

However, it is perfectly possible for Gloria to make it back to the front steps in the allotted time, where Darnell pictured her telling Lovelady and everyone on the steps about the assassination:



   This is a Darnell Film still frame Blowup. It is timestamped as being 20 seconds after the kill shot. The figure you see with all the forehead showing is Billy Lovelady. He is standing on the steps in front of the TSBD. He is almost standing in the very same spot that the Altgens photo showed him to be standing. Without a doubt, this is Lovelady 20 seconds after the kill shot. Lovelady can Not be in 2 places at the same time. Lovelady is Not one of the "2 Guys" distancing themselves from the "getaway" car on the Couch Film.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #228 on: Yesterday at 09:38:31 PM »
Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

   DAN - It doesn't matter if there is a pattern or something else on that shirt. Above, I have proven that Lovelady is standing on the steps in front of the TSBD when this Couch still frame was taken only 20 seconds after the kill shot.  Bart Kamp needs to realize that these "2 Guys" have just jumped out of the "getaway" car they are now distancing themselves from. As technology sharpens these JFK Assassination Images, it's JFK Urban Legends such as this Lovelady ID that are being put asunder.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #229 on: Yesterday at 09:50:37 PM »
Bart Kamp needs to realize that these "2 Guys" have just jumped out of the "getaway" car they are now distancing themselves from.

You have a lot of nerve telling anybody, much less a researcher of the quality of Bart Kamp, what they "need to realize." Or perhaps you should just sit in the getaway car for three hours like your imaginary conspirators meant to do?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #230 on: Yesterday at 10:19:01 PM »
You have a lot of nerve telling anybody, much less a researcher of the quality of Bart Kamp, what they "need to realize." Or perhaps you should just sit in the getaway car for three hours like your imaginary conspirators meant to do?

   Thanks for agreeing with my having Proved that Bart Kamp got it wrong. Lovelady is clearly standing on the steps in front of the TSBD, at the very same time that these "2 Guys" are moving away from the "getaway" car. I am not familiar with the overall track record of Kamp. With respect to the "Lovelady ID" that Kamp has been pushing for some time now, Kamp got it wrong.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #231 on: Yesterday at 11:26:01 PM »
   Thanks for agreeing with my having Proved that Bart Kamp got it wrong. Lovelady is clearly standing on the steps in front of the TSBD, at the very same time that these "2 Guys" are moving away from the "getaway" car. I am not familiar with the overall track record of Kamp. With respect to the "Lovelady ID" that Kamp has been pushing for some time now, Kamp got it wrong.

You can say "getaway car" another thousand times and it's still not going to make it a getaway. Not even if you say it while tapping your ruby slippers together. It's still going to just be a car.