How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #203 on: March 24, 2026, 04:56:17 PM »
Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

  Bump regarding the 2 Guys having just exited the "getaway" car.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #204 on: March 25, 2026, 01:31:09 PM »
Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:



    Bump! This is too important to simply let pass by. Here we see Officer Baker and Lovelady right in front of the TSBD front door. And at the same time, the Couch still frame shows those 2 Guys right alongside the "getaway" car. Why? Because these 2 Guys just got out of that car and are now distancing themselves from this intended "getaway" car. Those 2 Guys are obviously Not Shelley & Lovelady. We see Lovelady is still standing in front of the TSBD at the very same time that these 2 Guys are moving away from the car. The only way these 2 Guys could be in this position 20 seconds after the Kill Shot, is if they had just got out of that car. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #205 on: March 25, 2026, 03:07:52 PM »
    Bump! This is too important to simply let pass by. Here we see Officer Baker and Lovelady right in front of the TSBD front door. And at the same time, the Couch still frame shows those 2 Guys right alongside the "getaway" car. Why? Because these 2 Guys just got out of that car and are now distancing themselves from this intended "getaway" car. Those 2 Guys are obviously Not Shelley & Lovelady. We see Lovelady is still standing in front of the TSBD at the very same time that these 2 Guys are moving away from the car. The only way these 2 Guys could be in this position 20 seconds after the Kill Shot, is if they had just got out of that car.

I can't even follow your tortured logic. In fact, I don't see any evidence of logic at all. Everything you are arguing is one assumption after another. You assume the car was a "getaway". You assume two guys just got out of that car. You assume who those two guys are. Do you ever propose anything that is based on actual evidence.

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #206 on: March 25, 2026, 03:30:25 PM »
I can't even follow your tortured logic. In fact, I don't see any evidence of logic at all. Everything you are arguing is one assumption after another. You assume the car was a "getaway". You assume two guys just got out of that car. You assume who those two guys are. Do you ever propose anything that is based on actual evidence.

   The "theory" has always been that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes we see alongside the car on the Couch Film, was Shelley & Lovelady. As you can see, Lovelady is still in front of the TSBD front door, when these 2 Guys are walking alongside the car. Both still frames showing the 2 Guys and Lovelady on the TSBD steps, also include Officer Baker. Baker is in both still frames. This Proves these 2 still frames are happening almost simultaneously. Like building a wall, I have put together the "getaway" car one brick at a time. Some bricks bigger than others, but still 1 at a time. I have just destroyed the "theory" that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes are Shelley and Lovelady. Do you know of any 2 male eyewitnesses, that would have been able to get next to the "getaway" car only 20 seconds after the kill shot? Those 2 Guys/Silhouettes on the Couch Film still frame had to of exited the car. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #207 on: March 25, 2026, 04:04:27 PM »
   The "theory" has always been that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes we see alongside the car on the Couch Film, was Shelley & Lovelady. As you can see, Lovelady is still in front of the TSBD front door, when these 2 Guys are walking alongside the car. Both still frames showing the 2 Guys and Lovelady on the TSBD steps, also include Officer Baker. Baker is in both still frames. This Proves these 2 still frames are happening almost simultaneously. Like building a wall, I have put together the "getaway" car one brick at a time. Some bricks bigger than others, but still 1 at a time. I have just destroyed the "theory" that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes are Shelley and Lovelady. Do you know of any 2 male eyewitnesses, that would have been able to get next to the "getaway" car only 20 seconds after the kill shot? Those 2 Guys/Silhouettes on the Couch Film still frame had to of exited the car.

So you don't think Baker could be in the same location at two different times.

Still waiting for your proof the car was a getaway car.


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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #208 on: March 25, 2026, 05:01:17 PM »
So you don't think Baker could be in the same location at two different times.

Still waiting for your proof the car was a getaway car.

     Baker is pictured with Lovelady. Lovelady is standing very close to the TSBD front door. At this same time, the 2 Guys are pictured standing alongside the car. This means that it is impossible for 1 of these 2 guys to be Lovelady. And the Lovelady ID on that still frame is very solid. This man not only looks like Lovelady, but that man is in almost the same position that Lovelady is in on the Altgens Photo.
    The car being a "getaway" car traces back to the Wiegman Film NOT SHOWING a car parked alongside the Island, several feet back from the corner. This means this car was traveling down the Elm St Extension as Wiegman filmed the area around the Island. The car was traveling down the Elm Ext while shots were being fired at JFK. The car parked alongside the Island inside a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone. After the 2 Guys inside the car bolted, that car sat parked there for 3+ Hrs after the kill shot. This car moving down the Elm St Ext while shots were being fired, and then parking in a "NO PARKING..." zone was well planned. I believe this "getaway" car was intended for the shooting team inside the sniper's nest. 

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #209 on: March 25, 2026, 09:40:10 PM »
     Baker is pictured with Lovelady. Lovelady is standing very close to the TSBD front door. At this same time, the 2 Guys are pictured standing alongside the car. This means that it is impossible for 1 of these 2 guys to be Lovelady. And the Lovelady ID on that still frame is very solid. This man not only looks like Lovelady, but that man is in almost the same position that Lovelady is in on the Altgens Photo.
    The car being a "getaway" car traces back to the Wiegman Film NOT SHOWING a car parked alongside the Island, several feet back from the corner. This means this car was traveling down the Elm St Extension as Wiegman filmed the area around the Island. The car was traveling down the Elm Ext while shots were being fired at JFK. The car parked alongside the Island inside a clearly posted, "NO PARKING At Any Time" zone. After the 2 Guys inside the car bolted, that car sat parked there for 3+ Hrs after the kill shot. This car moving down the Elm St Ext while shots were being fired, and then parking in a "NO PARKING..." zone was well planned. I believe this "getaway" car was intended for the shooting team inside the sniper's nest.

So a parking violation is your proof that the car was a getaway car.

I feel silly even asking you this but were is your proof there was a shooting team inside the TSBD.