How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Tom Graves]

Even if your scenario is given another five seconds, it still doesn't have the twenty-five seconds it needs to: 1) have Calvery, Shelley, and Lovelady converge and converse, and 2) have Shelley and Lovelady begin moving down Elm Street Extension.

Dear Royell,

Calvery was only about fifty yards from the "island" during the motorcade and could have gotten to it in ten or twelve seconds. Shelley, who was on the steps and had been best man at Calvery's wedding, could have heard her bellowing, and, with Lovelady, intercepted her on-or-near the "island." After a five-second "pow-wow" between those three, there was plenty of time left in my scenario for 1) Shelley and Lovelady to get as far down Elm Street Extension as we see them in Couch-Darnell, and 2) for Calvery to get to the TSBD steps in time to be "captured" there in Darnell.

-- Tom

With respect to "Oh they have shot that man, they have shot that man," that general verbiage is referenced by Witt/Umbrella Man in his HSCA Testimony. Except Witt says it was being repeated by a lady somewhere behind him. Witt and The Cuban were sitting on the retaining wall at this point in time. Behind the two of them was The Grassy Knoll. Do you still want to speculate that this was Calvery saying this?

Dear Royell,

The only reason I included that part of Baker's testimony is to disprove your statement that he ran immediately to the TSBD upon parking his motorcycle. Heck, he even testified that he was still at his motorcycle when he heard Police Chief Curry say twenty-seven seconds after the final shot, "Get someone up on the [triple] underpass (aka "the railroad track" in Baker's terminology).

-- Tom

You speculate that Calvery, Shelley, and Lovelady held their "pow-wow" on the "island." I'm guessing this would be on the very corner of the "island," about where Officer Baker ran across it. This would also place the three of them in front of the "getaway" car, just like Baker was. So, in order for Shelley and Lovelady to then be filmed walking down the Elm St Extension, they would first have to walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then move down the Elm Street Extension. Why wouldn't Shelley and Lovelady instead proceed in a straight line from the corner of the "island" and then walk past the front and back passenger doors of the "getaway" car? Why would they go out of their way to walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then proceed down the Elm Street Extension?

Dear Royell,

You assume that Shelley and Lovelady had already decided -- before hearing from Calvery on-or-near the "island" that JFK had been shot -- to walk down to the railway yard / parking lot.

Why do you assume that?

-- Tom


Note: The above has been translated from Storing Speak into intelligible English.

[Royell Storing]

  There is no evidence that Calvery was "bellowing".
   You did not address why Shelley and Lovelady would walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then be on the driver's side of the "getaway" car vs merely walking directly toward  the railroad yard/alongside the Passenger doors of the car. It makes no sense for them to go from the Island to the Driver's side of the car. 

[Tom Graves]

There is no evidence that Calvery was "bellowing."

Dear Royell,

Okay, how about "hollerin'", then?

Isn't that what they do in your neck of the woods?

You did not address why Shelley and Lovelady would walk around the front of the "getaway" car and then be on the driver's side of the "getaway" car vs merely walking directly toward the railroad yard/alongside the Passenger doors of the car. It makes no sense for them to go from the Island to the Driver's side of the car.

 
Dear Royell,

Since big and tall and red-haired (and therefore easy-to-spot) Calvery was within 10 to 12 seconds of the "island" and was bookin' it to the TSBD, Shelley and his sidekick, Lovelady, may have intercepted her in "the middle of" Elm Street Extension, itself.

Does that work for you?

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Royell,

Okay, how about "hollerin'", then?

Isn't that what they do in your neck of the woods?
 
Dear Royell,

Since big and tall and red-haired (and therefore easy-to-spot) Calvery was within 10 to 12 seconds of the "island" and was bookin' it to the TSBD, Shelley and his sidekick, Lovelady, may have intercepted her in "the middle of" Elm Street Extension, itself.

Does that work for you?

-- Tom

   The above is proof of your trying "this and that" in order to make it work. That's not evidence. What you're doing is like a kid screwing around with a chemistry set and ending up with a stink bomb.

[Tom Graves]

The above is proof of your trying "this and that" in order to make it work. That's not evidence. What you're doing is like a kid screwing around with a chemistry set and ending up with a stink bomb.

Dear Royell,

In other words, you have no rational response and all you can so is hurl insults.

You poor little "useful idiot," you.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Royell,

Okay, how about "hollerin'", then?

Isn't that what they do in your neck of the woods?
 
Dear Royell,

Since big and tall and red-haired (and therefore easy-to-spot) Calvery was within 10 to 12 seconds of the "island" and was bookin' it to the TSBD, Shelley and his sidekick, Lovelady, may have intercepted her in "the middle of" Elm Street Extension, itself.

Does that work for you?

-- Tom

    The above is why You and The Nutty Professor are "2 peas inna pod". You guys are repeatedly revising your previous position(s). Just buckle down, put in the time, and do the deep-dive research. And remember to remove your Red/Cyan Glasses. 

[Royell Storing]

Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:

   Bump regarding the positions of Officer Baker, Lovelady, and Calvery.  We see Baker has already run passed the Island, and Lovelady is Still directly in front of the TSBD. This means those 2 Guys alongside the "Getaway" car on the Couch still frame can Not be Shelley & Lovelady. Those 2 Guys we see on the Couch still frame have just exited the "getaway" car.