Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

[Royell Storing]

Actually , it was not until about 70 secs post shots that Baker and Truly   encounter the 2 mystery white men “loitering” around the rear elevators.

So like Storing ? Why did not Truly  ID these men to Baker as TSBD employees?

Imo, if  Truly did not recognize 2 men at the rear elevators as TSBD employees then surely he would have questioned their presence there would he not? 

This points therefore to those 2 men being Lovelady and Shelley and it was at this 70 sec post shots encounter when Truly told Lovelady to guard  the elevators while Truly  and Baker prepared to start ascending the staircases.

But then there is Luke Mooney arriving next,  so Mooney should have encountered Lovelady guarding the elevators should he not ?

And Luke Mooney had an encounter with Victoria Adams at the rear elevator on the 2nd floor which  was stuck because the power was off and he couldn’t operate the elevator. So Mooney starts ascending the stairs and lo and behold he counters 2 plainclothes men coming down the stairs!

Meanwhile, where the heck are Shelley and Lovelady if they were supposed to be guarding the elevators when Mooney gets to the rear elevator on the 2nd floor?

I think the solution must be that Mooney went up to the 2nd floor using the FRONT staircase at the front lobby entrance, thus he did not make  contact with Shelley or Lovelady if they were still guarding the rear elevators on the 1st floor.

I think that Victoria Adams after standing outside in front of TSBD for about 2 minutes decided to go back into TSBD and return to the 4th floor office. Not sure which way she went though, however which ever way, she runs into Mooney on the 2nd floor at the rear elevators.

   I can buy into some of the earlier points you make, but there is Nothing ID'ing one of the women that Officer Mooney encountered as being Vicky Adams. You need to be careful about cavalierly applying ID's to people. If it's your opinion please state such. People come here looking for Facts about the JFK Assassination.
   Why would Officer Mooney enter the 1st floor right next to the freight elevators and Not use those same elevators to go up? Why would he walk clear across the 1st floor? Mooney clearly testified that the elevator power went Out AFTER he was going up with the 2 women. 

[Royell Storing]

He thought the shots had come from the roof. If he and Truly entered the front door about 30 seconds after the final shot, he probably figured those two guys (who weren't together and one of whom was sitting) couldn't have been on the roof and gotten down to the first floor so quickly.

   "He probably...?" You ever see a cop enter a house? They "clear" every room, every stranger they encounter. 1 story house, 5 story house, doesn't matter. Protocol.
    Officer Baker should have quickly patted Oswald down. Maybe Oswald was carrying that Phony ID? Finding that Phony Id on Oswald would have saved Tippit's life.

[Tom Graves]

   "He probably...?" You ever see a cop enter a house? They "clear" every room, every stranger they encounter. 1 story house, 5 story house, doesn't matter. Protocol.
    Officer Baker should have quickly patted Oswald down. Maybe Oswald was carrying that Phony ID? Finding that Phony Id on Oswald would have saved Tippit's life.

Okay, Inspector Clouseau.

You seem to forget, however, that the seven-story TSBD was a large building, that Baker's first thought was that the shots had come from the roof, that when he and Truly entered the building only about thirty seconds after the final shot, he was the only policeman in it, and that it would have taken him several minutes to get to the roof if he'd "cleared" every nook and cranny on his way up.

D'oh!

[Royell Storing]

Okay, Inspector Clouseau.

You seem to forget, however, that the seven-story TSBD was a large building, that Baker's first thought was that the shots had come from the roof, that when he and Truly entered the building only about thirty seconds after the final shot, he was the only policeman in it, and that it would have taken him several minutes to get to the roof if he'd "cleared" every nook and cranny on his way up.

D'oh!

    Officer Baker's conduct inside the TSBD was inconsistent to put it mildly. But there's also his preamble. Baker claims that pigeons led him to believe that there was an active shooter atop/inside the TSBD, yet he does Not ride his motorcycle right up to the front steps. He does Not choose the fastest path to enter a building containing an active shooter. Baker instead rides his motorcycle around the corner, parks his bike at the curb, and then runs up Elm St and then across the Elm St Ext. This "course of action" in the face of an active shooter just does not fit this situation. And then there's Officer Baker, prior to his WC Q/A, going through 3 dress rehearsals with the WC Attorney regarding the tick-tock of his entering the TSBD. That challenges the smell test. 

[Tom Graves]

Officer Baker's conduct inside the TSBD was inconsistent to put it mildly. But there's also his preamble. Baker claims that pigeons led him to believe that there was an active shooter atop/inside the TSBD, yet he does Not ride his motorcycle right up to the front steps. He does Not choose the fastest path to enter a building containing an active shooter. Baker instead rides his motorcycle around the corner, parks his bike at the curb, and then runs up Elm St and then across the Elm St Ext. This "course of action" in the face of an active shooter just does not fit this situation. And then there's Officer Baker, prior to his WC Q/A, going through 3 dress rehearsals with the WC Attorney regarding the tick-tock of his entering the TSBD. That challenges the smell test.

Dear Comrade Inspector Clouseau,

It's a PITY that Officer Baker was NOT as LOGICAL as you ALWAYS ARE when YOU'RE under intense PRESSURE in a dynamic SITUATION!!!

-- Tom

PS Hey! Maybe he was part of THE HUGE GATES CONSPIRACY, or maybe the EVIL, EVIL CIA forced him to COLLUDE in its evil, evil COVERUP!!!

Boy oh Boy oh Boy -- That dirty, rotten DPD Officer Marion Baker!!!

(And I bet he was a XXXXXX-LOVIN' LIBTARD DEMOCRAT, too!!!)

[Zeon Mason]

Maybe Baker didn’t want to accidentally run over all those people with his motorcycle?

[Royell Storing]

Maybe Baker didn’t want to accidentally run over all those people with his motorcycle?

   There were people stretched all down Elm St where he parked the motorcycle. The Lovelady and Shelley characters were not only able to walk cross the Elm St Ext there at the corner, they were able to walk right down the middle of that street. Wide open. Just my opinion, but Baker fully turning the corner makes his then reversing course and running toward the TSBD appear to be a 2nd thought. Maybe somebody yelled and/or pointed toward the TSBD? Something made Baker change his course. This is why I bring up Baker's 3 Dress Rehearsals. Those 3 dress rehearsals were Not restricted to a "silent" movie. Baker's performance is outta sync with his lines.