Lovelady in Darnell and it's Ramifications.

[Royell Storing]

He may have left 2 to 5 minutes out.

Okay.

If Lovelady's later testimonies and interviews were lies, what's your theory as to why he (and Shelley) lied about their movements after the final shot?

1) Because they were forced to by the evil, evil CIA, the evil, evil Warren Commission, or the evil, evil [fill in the blank] in order to somehow prove that Vicki Adams and Sandra Styles came down to the first floor a lot later than they remembered? Something like that?

2) Because they were part of the conspiracy?

3) Because [fill in the blank]?

4) "Dunno"

From the TSBD steps, the "old, little island" is towards the spot where President Kennedy's car had "stopped."

So, he's telling the truth there.

And by "awhile" he probably meant 5 minutes max.

Other than the HSCA interview "20-25 minutes" bit (by which he may have meant the period of time thirty minutes after the final shot in the Martin and Hughes clips in which he's smoking on the front steps, evidently having gone back outside for a nicotine "hit" once they started letting employees back in -- and after Martin and Hughes stop filming that scene, he probably went back inside), we don't know if Lovelady's statements and testimonies trend towards falsity, or truth.

But the fact that your receding-hairline "Shelley" in Couch-Darnell is probably Ochus V. Campbell, and the fact that in Couch-Darnell we can see a slender, suit-wearing "Shelley" figure and a distinctive-shirt-wearing (and bald-spot-sporting!!!) "Lovelady" figure walking/running in the direction of the railway yard down Elm Street Extension 25 seconds after the final shot suggests the latter.

    Come on Tom. Look at that Couch "reverse negative" real good. Those 2 guys walking down the Elm St Ext close to the "island/triangle" are Not that far behind Officer Smith who has just reached the Huge Gates. 2-5 Minutes? NOT even close. I know what Lovelady and Shelley testified about 3+ minutes, but if you believe those 2 guys we see on the Couch "reverse negative" are Lovelady and Shelley, your 2-5 minutes is more like 1 minute max. Officer Smith being just ahead of them = Lovelady's/Shelley's egg timer.

[Tom Graves]

Come on Tom. Look at that Couch "reverse negative" real good. Those 2 guys walking down the Elm St Ext close to the "island/triangle" are Not that far behind Officer Smith who has just reached the Huge Gates. 2-5 Minutes? NOT even close. I know what Lovelady and Shelley testified about 3+ minutes, but if you believe those 2 guys we see on the Couch "reverse negative" are Lovelady and Shelley, your 2-5 minutes is more like 1 minute max. Officer Smith being just ahead of them = Lovelady's/Shelley's egg timer.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

You need to be more specific.

"One minute max" to what?

Walk/run to the first railroad track, hang out there for a short time, and return to the TSBD and enter it via the rear door (per Lovelady) or the west door (per Shelley)?

Regardless, how are the images in a reversed Couch clip superior to the regular images in same in determining the locations and identities of people in them?

[Royell Storing]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

You need to be more specific.

"One minute max" to what?

Walk/run to the first railroad track, hang out there for a short time, and return to the TSBD and enter it via the rear door (per Lovelady) or the west door (per Shelley)?

Regardless, how are the images in a reversed Couch clip superior to the regular images in same in determining the locations and identities of people in them?

   Do you see the 2 guys moving right alongside the "island/triangle"? Do you see one of these guys is wearing all dark? Probably a dark suit? Do you see the other guy is shorter and wearing a light colored shirt of some kind? Do you see both of the guys are walking toward the railroad yard? Do you see Officer Smith running in front of these 2 guys? Do you see that Officer Smith has reached the Huge Gates? Do you know Officer Smith's timeline? Personally, I believe the Couch Film "reverse negative" is fairly definitive as to the Lovelady/Shelley timeline. They were at the "island/triangle" at somewhere around 45+ seconds after the Kill Shot. Unless of course, you believe these 2 guys are 2 other people. That's certainly possible, but far from probable. You have viewed the Couch Film "reverse negative" right? If not, you need to get off the dime. It's this kind of lackluster effort that the Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers have made their hallmark. Please do Not follow in their footsteps. 

[Tom Graves]

Do you see the two guys moving right alongside the "island/triangle"? Do you see one of these guys is wearing all dark? Probably a dark suit? Do you see the other guy is shorter and wearing a light-colored shirt of some kind?

DEAR COMRADE STORING,

DO YOU MEAN THE "SHELLEY" AND "LOVELADY" FIGURES?

http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/billy-nolan-lovelady/

REGARDLESS, HOW IS THE COUCH CLIP "REVERSE NEGATIVE" (SIC) SUPERIOR TO THE NORMAL COUCH CLIP FOR VIEWING THE PEOPLE YOU'RE RANTING ABOUT? 

-- TOM

[Royell Storing]

DEAR COMRADE STORING,

DO YOU MEAN THE "SHELLEY" AND "LOVELADY" FIGURES?

http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/billy-nolan-lovelady/

REGARDLESS, HOW IS THE COUCH CLIP "REVERSE NEGATIVE" (SIC) SUPERIOR TO THE NORMAL COUCH CLIP FOR VIEWING THE PEOPLE YOU'RE RANTING ABOUT? 

-- TOM

    There's even more to that "reverse negative" than the Shelley/Lovelady stuff.  You've obviously missed it. I'm not Samwise Gamgee. I will Not carry you Mr Frodo.

[Tom Graves]

There's even more to that "reverse negative" than the Shelley/Lovelady stuff.  You've obviously missed it. I'm not Samwise Gamgee. I will Not carry you Mr Frodo.

I looked at the gosh darned videos you referred me to last night.

It was like looking at the regular Couch film, except right was left and left was right.

When you say "reverse negative" do you mean that right is left and left is right, or do you mean what's black in the regular clip is white in the "reverse negative" one, and vice-versa (which I was expecting, but couldn't find)?

What the heck are you talking about?

[Dan O'meara]

    There's even more to that "reverse negative" than the Shelley/Lovelady stuff.  You've obviously missed it. I'm not Samwise Gamgee. I will Not carry you Mr Frodo.

I will Not carry you Mr Frodo.

 

[Tom Graves]

I will Not carry you Mr Frodo.

Dear danny Boy o'meara,

You've been in the act of "posting" on this thread for about ten hours.

Is this the best you can come up with?

-- Tom