If a CT could come to accept the "SBT," would he or she remain a CT?

[Dan O'meara]

Where can one read the Knott study? Not a synopsis of the study or a video synopsis of it, but the actual full study itself. What generation copy, or copies, of the Zapruder film did they use? Did they use the Betzner and Willis photos? If so, what generation copies were they? How far inboard of JFK did they determine Connally to be? Did they factor in the right rotation of Connally when concluding that the SBT could not work? It seems that they did not. In a video synopsis of theirs, they say that they found a significant angle difference between the entry/exit points on JFK and Connally.

Has nobody noticed that the Knott reconstruction has the bullet passing through JFK and hitting Connally in the back.
For some reason I'm not sure about, it never occurred to the good folk at Knott to explain this bizarre discrepancy.
It never occurred to them that it highlighted that there model was badly awry in some way.
Did they believe that there was a bullet hole somewhere else in JBC's back?

[Dan O'meara]

This is a still from the original Knott Labs animation.
It clearly demonstrates that JBC is positioned incorrectly in relation to JFK. JBC appears to be sat directly in front of JFK whereas, in reality, he should be way more to his left.
Knott did a great job of recreating Dealey Plaza. They did an OK job of recreating the limo. They did an extremely poor job of positioning the occupants of the limo.
Moving JBC to his left would bring the spot where Knott has the bullet hitting his back more in line with reality.

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There are so many issues with the above still it's hard to know where to begin and it's hard to understand how Knott Labs never had to explain these issues.

1] Why is the bullet striking JFK in the wrong place.
2] Why is it exiting his chest
3] How can the bullet be shown hitting JBC in that position when no bullet hole was found there
4] The red line (which represents the path of the bullet through JBC) indicates that he was shot by JFK! How can this be?

The Knott Labs animation is garbage and has done nothing to further our understanding of the assassination. It is as if those responsible for it were completely unaware of the various injuries suffered by the two men.
An analysis of the Z-film reveals, beyond any reasonable doubt, that both JFK and JBC were shot through at the same time, presumably by the same bullet.
The idea that this bullet was CE399 is a joke.

[Dan O'meara]

I've reproduced this post made by John Mytton which nicely highlights Knott Labs mediocre efforts to deal with this issue:




Let's not lose track of the actual purpose of what Knott Laboratory actually submits into courts, they basically compose what amounts to a video game graphic and this three dimensional representation "helps" the jury visualize what happened, the Knott Labs visuals lack the precision to be accepted as conclusive proof, hence their explanation on their web page,   

Forensic Visualization
Forensic visualization aids attorneys through scientifically accurate reconstructions of incidents or accidents.
Recent consumer behavior studies have found that, “Viewers retain 95% of a message when they watch it in a video compared to just 10% when reading it in text.” Our visualizations helps investigators and attorneys convey the complexities of a case in a format that jurors can easily and quickly comprehend.
https://knottlab.com/services/forensic-visualization/

And again because it's so important, Knott Labs computer modelling lacks the desired precision for conclusive proof, and especially since the position of the Limo and the occupants has information derived from Zapruder's fuzzy two dimensional film frame which shows no depth and therefore the "Z" axis placement has to be estimated. And don't forget John Orr a well known conspiracist commissioned this work, so Knott Lab clearly had a vested interest in producing results to satisfy their paying client.

Knott Lab's three dimensional approximation based on a two dimensional image.





As the Limo entered Houston, note Connally's position.



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[Michael T. Griffith]

Also, regarding the throat wound, Dr. Nathan Jacobs observed that the Parkland doctors described a laceration of the pharynx and trachea that was larger than the small throat wound, which would usually indicate the bullet traveled from front to back. The interior damage noted below the level of the throat wound indicates that the projectile, whether a bullet, a bullet fragment, or a glass fragment, ranged downward after it entered the throat

When Harold Weisberg examined high-quality photos of JFK's shirt at the National Archives, he noticed there is less blood inside the collar band than on the outside, which doesn't fit the SBT scenario. If a bullet had exited the throat, one would expect there would be just as much blood, if not more, on the inside of the collar band as on the outside of it. Not only did Weisberg find this is not the case, but he also discovered that where the sides of the shirt overlap, there is no blood at all:

This is less blood inside the collar band than on the outside of the fabric, not consistent with the
bloodstains coming from the body side. Where the sides of the shirt overlapped in wearing,
no blood. (Post Mortem, p. 347)

Weisberg also found evidence that confirmed the belief that the slits were made by the emergency room nurses as they cut away the president's clothing; he could see the zigzag mark of a cutting blade on the slits:

The dead giveaway of the fabrication that this is where the magical bullet must have exited,
according to the official story, is the nonmagical, mute evidence of the slit on the left side.
The irregular, zigzag mark of a cutting blade is visible with an engraver's lens no more powerful
than the 10-power miniature I carry. (Post Mortem, p. 347)

One of the nurses confirmed this to researcher Henry Hurt.

And, it bears repeating (1) the FBI found no metallic traces around the shirt slits, a clear indication that no bullet exited the throat, and (2) the released photos of JFK's tie prove there was no hole through the tie but only a small nick on the left edge of the knot, proving that no bullet exited the throat, since the tie knot was squarely centered between the shirt collar bands, so no bullet could have exited the slits without tearing through the tie.

All the bogus SBT animations in the world cannot overturn these facts.

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[Jake Maxwell]

Also, regarding the throat wound, Dr. Nathan Jacobs observed that the Parkland doctors described a laceration of the pharynx and trachea that was larger than the small throat wound, which would usually indicate the bullet traveled from front to back. The interior damage noted below the level of the throat wound indicates that the projectile, whether a bullet, a bullet fragment, or a glass fragment, ranged downward after it entered the throat

When Harold Weisberg examined high-quality photos of JFK's shirt at the National Archives, he noticed there is less blood inside the collar band than on the outside, which doesn't fit the SBT scenario. If a bullet had exited the throat, one would expect there would be just as much blood, if not more, on the inside of the collar band as on the outside of it. Not only did Weisberg find this is not the case, but he also discovered that where the sides of the shirt overlap, there is no blood at all:

This is less blood inside the collar band than on the outside of the fabric, not consistent with the
bloodstains coming from the body side. Where the sides of the shirt overlapped in wearing,
no blood. (Post Mortem, p. 347)

Weisberg also found evidence that confirmed the belief that the slits were made by the emergency room nurses as they cut away the president's clothing; he could see the zigzag mark of a cutting blade on the slits:

The dead giveaway of the fabrication that this is where the magical bullet must have exited,
according to the official story, is the nonmagical, mute evidence of the slit on the left side.
The irregular, zigzag mark of a cutting blade is visible with an engraver's lens no more powerful
than the 10-power miniature I carry. (Post Mortem, p. 347)

One of the nurses confirmed this to researcher Henry Hurt.

And, it bears repeating (1) the FBI found no metallic traces around the shirt slits, a clear indication that no bullet exited the throat, and (2) the released photos of JFK's tie prove there was no hole through the tie but only a small nick on the left edge of the knot, proving that no bullet exited the throat, since the tie knot was squarely centered between the shirt collar bands, so no bullet could have exited the slits without tearing through the tie.

All the bogus SBT animations in the world cannot overturn these facts.

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Good info!

The SBT functions like an IQ test...

It's all crap made up by Arlen Specter, the water boy for the Warren Commission...

[Jack Nessan]

A "cartoon"? You mean the computer-generated animation based on the laser-scanned digital replica of Dealey Plaza, based on every known photo and film of the shooting, and based on a photogrammetric match-moving analysis that enabled Knott's experts to identify the correct locations of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle and in relation to the sixth-floor window frame by frame during the shooting?

You guys gushed over Dale Myers' "cartoon" (read: animation) that pretended to show the SBT was possible. You didn't dismiss it as a "cartoon."

I notice you said nothing about the fact that Dr. Piziali, who oversaw the Failure Analysis test, admitted that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he must have been hit at least four frames earlier, which destroys the silly lapel-flip SBT. Just never mind when your own experts refute your myths, right?

Obviously, you're never going to admit you're wrong about the SBT, because then you'd have to admit that more than one gunman fired at JFK.

MG--"Obviously, you're never going to admit you're wrong about the SBT, because then you'd have to admit that more than one gunman fired at JFK."

Obviously, you are never going to prove there even was a third shot. Without a third shot all this never-ending nonsense just evaporates and goes away. All the supposed experts and all your bizarre theories shrivel up and fade away. Sorry to be the one to have to explain it to you over and over but the SBT is the only answer. When are you going to finally admit there was only two shots and not three? Josiah sure thought so and wrote about it in Six Seconds in Dallas.

[Michael T. Griffith]

MG--"Obviously, you're never going to admit you're wrong about the SBT, because then you'd have to admit that more than one gunman fired at JFK."

Obviously, you are never going to prove there even was a third shot. Without a third shot all this never-ending nonsense just evaporates and goes away. All the supposed experts and all your bizarre theories shrivel up and fade away. Sorry to be the one to have to explain it to you over and over but the SBT is the only answer. When are you going to finally admit there was only two shots and not three? Josiah sure thought so and wrote about it in Six Seconds in Dallas.

I think this is preposterous. Consider:

-- There's the Tague wounding.

-- There's the shot that five witnesses saw strike the street early in the shooting.

-- There's the 7.65 mm shell that we now know was found in Dealey Plaza within a week after the shooting and placed in an FBI evidence envelope (FBI Field Office Dallas 89-43-1A-122).

-- There's the deformed bullet that a Navy chief petty officer found in the limousine and handed to Dr. James Young at the autopsy.

-- There's the bullet that struck the grass on the south side of Elm Street near a manhole cover, about 350 feet from the TSBD. The hole made by the bullet was even photographed, and the picture appeared in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on 11/23/63.

-- There's the bullet that stuck the middle of the sidewalk on the north side of Elm Street, creating a 4-inch long and 1/4-inch deep dug-out mark in the sidewalk. Dallas resident Eugene Aldredge saw the dug-out mark and assumed, logically enough, that the mark had surely been noticed by law enforcement officials and would be discussed in full in the Warren Commission's report. When he realized the mark apparently had been "overlooked," he immediately contacted the FBI and told them about it. Incredibly, the FBI said it could not be a bullet mark because it could not have come from the sixth-floor window!

-- There are the seven blur episodes in the Zapruder film.

-- There are reactions to at least six shots in the Zapruder film.

-- There are at least four gunshot impulses on the DPD dictabelt recording that was made during the assassination by a patrolman in Dealey Plaza with his mic left on.

For more info, see

"Extra Bullets and Missed Shots in Dealey Plaza"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WRwhDQ9HMydf5pICsHwgtkoNKw0YSO8T/view

"The HSCA's Acoustical Evidence: Proof of a Second Gunman in the JFK Assassination"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KvdvH8gTqFgMn-2vTI5ppg_egWxRKg9U/view

"Reactions to Six Shots in the Zapruder Film"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnp3Vch_KMOB_qufAhlQOCLTTS9jqNV0/view

I present more evidence on the six shot reactions in my book A Comforting Lie: The Myth that a Lone Gunman Killed President Kennedy.

[Jake Maxwell]

IQ Test (1 minute to complete):
The damage and wounds pictured below (12 in all) were caused by:

• One bullet

• Two bullets

• Three bullets

• More than three bullets