If a CT could come to accept the "SBT," would he or she remain a CT?

[Michael T. Griffith]

MG: The only forensic engineering and digital reconstruction firm that has analyzed the SBT trajectories, the prestigious Knott Laboratory ...The Knott SBT trajectory analysis dwarfs all previous analyses in sophistication and data volume

Not true. Failure Analysis Associates was (and still is, under the name Exponent) performed a trajectory study in 1994 for the ABA mock trial. It was scientifically superior to the amateurish, half-finished mess that KL did.

This is laughable nonsense. If Knott Lab's study had confirmed the SBT, we both know you'd be singing a very different tune.

BTW, Dr. Robert Piziali, who oversaw the Failure Analysis study, admitted under cross-examination that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he could not have been hit later than Z221.   

At the very least, FaAA understood that they needed to account for uncertainties in the exact position of the bodies and the locations of the wounds. The only way that the KL study surpassed the others is in the sheer volume of data. But that's because of the tool they used to get topographic data; the great majority of the data generated is useless to this particular task.

This is just so much nonsense. FYI, the amount of data is crucial in any trajectory analysis. The Knott Lab study was far more sophisticated than the Failure Analysis study on several counts, starting with the fact that Knott did a laser survey of Dealey Plaza and constructed an exact digital replica of the plaza. That's kind of, sort of, important for any trajectory analysis of the SBT, don't you think? The technology to create that replica didn't even exist in 1994.

Knott Lab focused on the key, crucial issue of JFK's and Connally's positions. They were aware of the questions about the location of JFK's back wound, but they proved that no matter which location you choose, JFK and JBC were not aligned with a trajectory that traces from Connally's chest exit wound through his back wound and back through JFK's throat wound and back to the sixth-floor window. It just doesn't work.

Folks, the smears and disinformation coming from Todd and WC apologists about the Knott Lab SBT study is really misleading and unserious.

[Jack Nessan]

This is laughable nonsense. If Knott Lab's study had confirmed the SBT, we both know you'd be singing a very different tune.

BTW, Dr. Robert Piziali, who oversaw the Failure Analysis study, admitted under cross-examination that JFK's Z224-225 reaction proves he could not have been hit later than Z220.   

This is just so much nonsense. FYI, the amount of data is crucial in any trajectory analysis. The Knott Lab study was far more sophisticated than the Failure Analysis study on several counts, starting with the fact that Knott did a laser survey of Dealey Plaza and constructed an exact digital replica of the plaza. That's kind of, sort of, important for any trajectory analysis of the SBT, don't you think? The technology to create that replica didn't even exist in 1994.

Knott Lab focused on the key, crucial issue of JFK's and Connally's positions. They were aware of the questions about the location of JFK's back wound, but they proved that no matter which location you choose, JFK and JBC were not aligned with a trajectory that traces from Connally's chest exit wound through his back wound and back through JFK's throat wound and back to the sixth-floor window. It just doesn't work.

Folks, the smears and disinformation coming from Todd and WC apologists about the Knott Lab SBT study is really misleading and unserious.

MG--    "If Knott Lab's study had confirmed the SBT"

Then Knotts Lab would not have made such fools of themselves. I thought you stated how competent they were. What happened that they came up with the useless crap that they did?

[Michael T. Griffith]

MG--    "If Knott Lab's study had confirmed the SBT"

Then Knotts Lab would not have made such fools of themselves. I thought you stated how competent they were. What happened that they came up with the useless crap that they did?

You guys are like Flat Earthers after being shown satellite photos of the Earth. Knott Lab is one of the most prestigious, recognized forensic engineering and digital reconstruction firms in the country. They've worked on numerous high-profile cases. That's why they were chosen to do the SBT trajectory analysis.

But, oh boy, when the news came out that Knott had debunked the SBT, you guys not only rejected and misrepresented their detailed analysis but started smearing them as incompetent, sloppy, etc., etc.

And, again, Dr. Robert Piziali, who supervised the Failure Analysis trajectory study, admitted under cross-examination that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he must have been by no later than Z221. That admission alone blows to pieces the silly Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

BTW, Dr. John Lattimer, another devout WC apologist, also admitted that JFK's Z225 reactions proves he must have been hit by no later than Z221. If memory serves, Lattimer said Z220 was the moment of the hit.

You guys can't even accept facts when they come from your own experts.

And, FYI, Knott Lab, after creating the first exact digital replica of Dealey Plaza from a laser scan of the plaza, enabling them to measure point to point anywhere in the plaza, matched images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. With a photogrammetric process known as match moving, using every available film and photo of the shooting, they synced key Zapruder frames into the digital replica of the plaza, something that had never been done before. The match moving enabled Knott's experts to identify the correct locations of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle and, crucially, in relation to the TSBD's sixth-floor window, and to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the shooting.

[Jack Nessan]

You guys are like Flat Earthers after being shown satellite photos of the Earth. Knott Lab is one of the most prestigious, recognized forensic engineering and digital reconstruction firms in the country. They've worked on numerous high-profile cases. That's why they were chosen to do the SBT trajectory analysis.

But, oh boy, when the news came out that Knott had debunked the SBT, you guys not only rejected and misrepresented their detailed analysis but started smearing them as incompetent, sloppy, etc., etc.

And, again, Dr. Robert Piziali, who supervised the Failure Analysis trajectory study, admitted under cross-examination that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he must have been by no later than Z221. That admission alone blows to pieces the silly Z224-lapel-flip SBT.

BTW, Dr. John Lattimer, another devout WC apologist, also admitted that JFK's Z225 reactions proves he must have been hit by no later than Z221. If memory serves, Lattimer said Z220 was the moment of the hit.

You guys can't even accept facts when they come from your own experts.

And, FYI, Knott Lab, after creating the first exact digital replica of Dealey Plaza from a laser scan of the plaza, enabling them to measure point to point anywhere in the plaza, matched images from the scene and the Zapruder film using photogrammetry. With a photogrammetric process known as match moving, using every available film and photo of the shooting, they synced key Zapruder frames into the digital replica of the plaza, something that had never been done before. The match moving enabled Knott's experts to identify the correct locations of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle and, crucially, in relation to the TSBD's sixth-floor window, and to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the shooting.

You can’t form an opinion by watching the films yourself? It takes someone to tell you what to think?
Knotts Lab could have produced something worth acknowledging but instead failed to ask themselves the simple question—does this make sense and made fools of themselves.

You still can't explain the obvious problems with their cartoon?

[Jack Nessan]

It is what I thought. All smoke and no fire. Knotts Lab is nothing but a joke. All the experts doing your thinking for you and that has left you unable to explain the obvious errors in Knotts Lab’s dubious work. If you cannot explain the problems with the animation, is there any way you can ask the experts to help you?

[Michael T. Griffith]

You can’t form an opinion by watching the films yourself? It takes someone to tell you what to think?
Knotts Lab could have produced something worth acknowledging but instead failed to ask themselves the simple question—does this make sense and made fools of themselves. You still can't explain the obvious problems with their cartoon?

A "cartoon"? You mean the computer-generated animation based on the laser-scanned digital replica of Dealey Plaza, based on every known photo and film of the shooting, and based on a photogrammetric match-moving analysis that enabled Knott's experts to identify the correct locations of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle and in relation to the sixth-floor window frame by frame during the shooting?

You guys gushed over Dale Myers' "cartoon" (read: animation) that pretended to show the SBT was possible. You didn't dismiss it as a "cartoon."

I notice you said nothing about the fact that Dr. Piziali, who oversaw the Failure Analysis test, admitted that JFK's Z225 reaction proves he must have been hit at least four frames earlier, which destroys the silly lapel-flip SBT. Just never mind when your own experts refute your myths, right?

Obviously, you're never going to admit you're wrong about the SBT, because then you'd have to admit that more than one gunman fired at JFK.

[Tom Graves]

Obviously, you're never going to admit you're wrong about the SBT, because then you'd have to admit that more than one gunman fired at JFK.

Obviously, you're full of high-fructose beans.