How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2025, 01:16:16 AM »
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How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

He descended the stairs.

The owner of the three shells was Lee Harvey Oswald.

How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

He descended the stairs.


"Richard Smith" said that the evidence that shows that Oswald went down the stairs after the shooting is.... THAT IT HAPPENED!

Do you agree with him?

The owner of the three shells was Lee Harvey Oswald.

What evidence do you have to support this claim? Can you show that Oswald ever bought any bullets?

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2025, 01:27:00 AM »
How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?

He descended the stairs.


"Richard Smith" said that the evidence that shows that Oswald went down the stairs after the shooting is.... THAT IT HAPPENED!

Do you agree with him?

The owner of the three shells was Lee Harvey Oswald.

What evidence do you have to support this claim? Can you show that Oswald ever bought any bullets?

The evidence that Oswald went down the stairs is that using one of the elevators would not have got him down to the second floor before Baker and Truly got there.

The shells had been fired in Oswald's Carcano. That's how I know that they were his.  I assume that he had bought them. I suppose that it is possible that someone gave them to him but it doesn't seem likely.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2025, 01:37:39 AM »
The evidence that Oswald went down the stairs is that using one of the elevators would not have got him down to the second floor before Baker and Truly got there.

The shells had been fired in Oswald's Carcano. That's how I know that they were his.  I assume that he had bought them. I suppose that it is possible that someone gave them to him but it doesn't seem likely.

The evidence that Oswald went down the stairs is that using one of the elevators would not have got him down to the second floor before Baker and Truly got there.

Very creative! Silly, but creative nevertheless. What exactly makes you claim that Oswald actually went down the stairs after the shots were fired? Can you even place him on the 6th floor at 12:30?

The shells had been fired in Oswald's Carcano. That's how I know that they were his.  I assume that he had bought them. I suppose that it is possible that someone gave them to him but it doesn't seem likely.

Well, it seems you not only assume he bought the bullets, but also that the rifle found at the TSBD was actually fired that day and that it was owned by Oswald.

Wouldn't you prefer to actually have some solid evidence instead of making assumptions?


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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2025, 01:55:12 AM »

  This is weak. Nobody knows if/how Oswald got down to the 2nd Floor. Nobody knows how Oswald exited the TSBD. None of you posting on this thread even know the TSBD Building. You seem to believe that it's either the Stairs or Freight Elevator to descend. Nope! Learn the building, think outside the conventional blather. I have Revealed the Unlocked Huge Gates. This is Extremely Important, but not the end-all-be-all. Again, you gotta KNOW the TSBD Building.     ***  Hint - How about the Dumbwaiter?  ***

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2025, 02:07:33 AM »
Well, Martin (Fox, not Sock Guy), welcome to the club. As you can see, you are in a wonderland of folks who seem to have difficulty grasping the point you are making or staying on topic for more than two posts.

As I understood it, your premise ("for the sake of argument," as we lawyers say) is that Oswald was not the shooter. If this were true, we are faced with the difficulty (among many others) of how the actual shooter exited the TSBD.

For the sake of argument - even though I think Oswald was the actual shooter - my guess would be that actual shooter would have been nicely dressed, passable as a visitor to one of the publishing companies, a detective or even a police officer, and would've simply blended in for a bit until he could've safely exited the TSBD. I wouldn't picture some "fleeing felon" scenario that would have drawn attention to him.

I don't think this really works, for all the reasons set forth in my own thread "Try thinking about the TSBD" (below), but this would be my best guess if there actually was a shooter other than Oswald inside the TSBD.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4230.0.html
« Last Edit: May 01, 2025, 02:18:21 AM by Lance Payette »

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2025, 02:31:46 AM »

  What about Exiting the TSBD via the UNLOCKED HUGE GATES that Directly Faced the Elm St Ext? Everybody is looking at the TSBD front door and directly above it at the Sniper's Nest. NOBODY is looking at the other end of the TSBD, down the Elm St Ext. The TSBD is constructed very strangely, as were the other buildings CONNECTED TO IT. On 11/22/63, the TSBD did Not look anything like it currently does. Probably done intentionally.

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2025, 04:41:37 PM »


Did the shooter sneak down the outside fire escape while everybody's eyes were on the fleeing motorcade?
« Last Edit: May 01, 2025, 04:42:36 PM by Jim Hawthorn »

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2025, 07:38:13 PM »

Well, it seems you not only assume he bought the bullets, but also that the rifle found at the TSBD was actually fired that day

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-3.html#expert

 
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and that it was owned by Oswald.

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#ownership

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Re: How exactly did the shooter get down from the sixth floor?
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2025, 07:38:13 PM »