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Online John Mytton

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #64 on: Today at 02:59:19 AM »
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But that's kind of my point. "Were mistaken," given the chaos and confusion, is perfectly understandable and is neither suspicious nor fodder for CT theorizing.

If the preferred answer is "lied," then one should be able to articulate a plausible reason for why they would have lied.

Ditto if there were two wallets. One should be able to articulate a plausible reason.

In short, one should at least be able to provide a coherent answer to my little "What sense would that have made?" questions.

If we admit the answer will always remain a mystery, then the debate is - or should be - at the level of which scenario seems the most plausible and makes the most sense. But that's exactly where those who are making the most noise - looking at you, Martin - don't seem to want to go.

The CT's don't need a reason, it's like Capasse told me a few days ago, he don't need no stinkin' alternate narratives, just pointing out the alleged problems with the evidence is enough proof for him! Personally I find this way of thinking to be extremely unsatisfying, the CT's have accumulated a wealth of allegations so it must lead somewhere, right?
In the case of the extra wallet at the Tippit crime scene, this to the devout CT is the shred of proof they are looking for to claim a conspiracy, because after 60+ years any evidence of conspiracy is virtually non existent so whatever morsel they can come up with is devoured like a rabid dog!
Also to a CT an extra wallet with the Hidell ID could mean that this wallet was swapped with Oswald's real wallet and thus the planted Hidell alias is again proof of conspiracy but planting the Hidell wallet in Oswald's wallet would still fulfil this criteria? The added difficulties in manufacturing, planting and then hiding the Tippit crime scene wallet makes zero sense.
The CT's like to believe that the Hidell alias was invented to cover the "fake" rifle and revolver purchases but as I've said before just linking the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" with these "fake" purchases would be far far easier and probably more convincing because why add extra steps which require a ton of extra work?
Here off the top of my head is the extra steps of planting the Hidell alias into the official narrative, with all the possible problems of this deceit being discovered in a multitude of ways, why bother?

The Hidell ID was manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID was planted by the Police
The Hidell ID negatives were manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID negatives were planted by conspirators in the Paine residence
The Hidell name was inserted by conspirators into the New Orleans post box application records.
The Hidell name was connected To Oswald's New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was used as The "Chapter President" of Oswald's made up Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was forged by conspirators onto Oswald's "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets
The Hidell name was written on membership cards by conspirators other than Marina, who must have lied.
The Hidell name was a play on "Fidel" according to Marina who must have lied
The Hidell name was forged onto the Klein's coupon
The Hidell Kleins coupon addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Klein's microfilm
The Hidell name was forged onto the Kleins envelope
The Hidell Kleins Envelope addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Kleins microfilm
The Hidell name on on the Kleins Coupon found by Waldman on the night following the assassination was forgotten?
The Hidell rifle was never sent to Oswald's PO box
The Hidell newly manufactured microfilm was substituted at some point with Kleins business records microfilm.
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or Police lied
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or a Postal official lied
The Hidell ID was asked of Oswald or an FBI agent lied
The Hidell name was forged onto Oswald Job applications as a reference
The Hidell rifle was photographed with Oswald by either forgery or trickery
The Hidell rifle was planted on the 6th floor of Oswald's work by conspirators
The Hidell revolver coupon was forged by conspirators
The Hidell name was forged onto the Seaport-Traders paperwork
The Hidell revolver was lied about by the Police
The Hidell revolver was substituted by Police
And on and on it goes!

JohnM
« Last Edit: Today at 03:06:49 AM by John Mytton »

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #65 on: Today at 03:03:02 AM »
I gave two plausible explanations. Here it goes again:

- someone planted a wallet with Oswald's name and the Hidell ID at the Tippit murder scene

- Oswald carried more than one wallet that day and dropped one at the Tippit murder scene

I think you're confusing or conflating "plausible" with "possible."

Sure, those are "possible" scenarios.

They become "plausible," if at all, when you can articulate what sense they would have made and why they make more sense than more mundane scenarios that seem to me to make far more sense.

When you start talking of planting a wallet at the Tippit scene with a Hidell ID in it, you are automatically in the realm of conspirators who know the Hidell name was used to purchase the rifle in March and for some reason think that including the Hidell ID will further their conspiratorial agenda. I have a difficult time making any sense of that.

Online Jon Banks

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #66 on: Today at 03:13:56 AM »
I think you're confusing or conflating "plausible" with "possible."

I understand the meanings of "plausible" and "possible".

If I typed "plausible", it was intentional.


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