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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2025, 04:39:12 PM »

It's definitely possible.


Bowley's call was at 1:17.

That's not what Bowley said.

And there is no "1:17" dispatcher time announcement.  And the announcements were of unknown accuracy.

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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2025, 04:40:45 PM »
1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds.

The machine didn't record continuously, and the extant recordings have been spliced and edited.

Online Mitch Todd

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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2025, 06:30:09 PM »
The machine didn't record continuously, and the extant recordings have been spliced and edited.

The Dictabelts were not guaranteed to record continuously over some period of time, but they would if there was enough traffic, as in the police response to the Tippit shooting. We've been here before.

The splice points have already been identified, and do not affect the 1:16 - 1:19 time period. 

As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2025, 09:32:41 PM »
The Dictabelts were not guaranteed to record continuously over some period of time, but they would if there was enough traffic, as in the police response to the Tippit shooting. We've been here before.

The splice points have already been identified, and do not affect the 1:16 - 1:19 time period. 

As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2025, 10:15:49 PM »
As for your continuing assertions that there are edits beyond the splicing, those are simply your own unsupported nebulosities.

Like your unsupported nebulosity that there was enough traffic to record continuously?

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« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2025, 11:17:30 PM »
Like your unsupported nebulosity that there was enough traffic to record continuously?

As I've said, we've been over this before. The DPD recording system would continue to record for four full seconds after the end of a transmission. There isn't a gap that long between Bowley's transmission and the second of the two 1:19 time stamps, indicating that the Dictabelt was running continuously in that interval
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2025, 05:06:34 PM »
As I've said, we've been over this before. The DPD recording system would continue to record for four full seconds after the end of a transmission. There isn't a gap that long between Bowley's transmission and the second of the two 1:19 time stamps, indicating that the Dictabelt was running continuously in that interval

That doesn't even make sense.  Are you saying the Benavides/Bowley transmission was at 1:19 (police dispatcher time)?