Tippit Debate

[John Iacoletti]

From CE705 (the original transcript of the police recordings):

[Mitch Todd]

From CE705 (the original transcript of the police recordings):

think you meant CE 705 and not CD 705?

The CE705 transcripts were hastily done by people weren't transcriptionists. They aren't very good, to say the least. The best transcripts of channel one traffic  made by Russ Shearer using the Dix tape. They are, by far, the beast  and most complete transcript of channel one traffic. You can find it at Bill Drenas' site: https://www.billdrenas.com/articles/dpd01-00.pdf

This is what the shearer transcript looks like along the interface you quoted.:

905. CITIZEN: Between Marsaliis and Beckley. It's a police officer. Somebody shot him. What--what's... 404 Tenth Street.
906. DIS: Can you hear me?
907. (Man and woman's voice in background)
908. DIS: 78.
909. CITIZEN: It's a police car, number 10.
910. DIS: 78.
911. DIS: (?) 78.
912. CITIZEN: Got that?
913. CITIZEN: Hello, police operator. Did you get that?
914. DIS: Attention. Signal 19, police officer, 510 East Jefferson.
915. CITIZEN: Thank you.
916. 35: 35.
917. 259: 259.
918. DIS: The citizen using the police radio: Remain off the radio now.
919. DIS: 91.
920. 69: 69's going out there.
921. DIS: 10-4, 69, code 3.
922. 602: 602, code 5.
923. 211: 211.
924. DIS: 211.
925. 211: We're clear, Industrial and Stemmons. We'll go out there.
926. DIS: 10-4, 211.
927. 15: 15.
928. 603: 603, code 5, Baylor.
929. 602: 602, code 6 (?).
1:19 930. DIS: 10-4, 603 and 602. 1:19.
931. 602: What was that address on Jefferson?
932. DIS: 501 East Tenth.
933. 85: 85 en route.
934. 19: 19.
935. DIS: 19.
936. 19: Give me the correct address on the shooting.
937. DIS: 501 East Tenth.
938. 105: 105.
938a. 602: 602, code 6.
939. 102: 102, code 4.
940. 105: Was 519 East Jefferson correct? (Siren)
941. DIS: We have two locations; 501 East Jefferson and
501 East Tenth.
941a. DIS: 19, are you en route?
941b. 105: Is this an officer?
942. : This is northward on Tenth.
942a. 19: 10-4.
942b. : 10-4.
942c. : 10...4.
942d. : 10-4.
942e. : ...on Tenth.
943. 19: 19 is en route.
944. DIS: 10-4, 19.
945. 605: 605, code 5
946. DIS: 10-4, 605. 1:19.

[Michael Capasse]

Bowley is quoted in Into the Nightmare as saying that his watch could be 5 minutes off. So, it could have been as late as 1:15 when Bowley's watch indicated 1:10. Also, the DPD clocks are not guaranteed to be exactly on time either, though they should generally be closer than Bowley's watch. Bowles said the dispatch center clocks were as much as 2 minutes off.

As for Markham's  laundromat clock, I will say that I've never seen anyone set their watch to a laundromat clock. There may be a reason for that.

lol - All clocks are wrong except for the time that implicate Oswald.   
Bowley said his watch could have been off, therefore it WAS. Todd hangs around laundromats looking for who might set a watch by the clock on the wall.
 Never did see anyone, therefore it was at least 1:15p https://jfk.boards.net/post/3903/thread

Meanwhile - 3 witnesses corroborate the earlier time of shooting (before 1:10p) - He just doesn't like them.
4 Documents also indicating an earlier time of death are obviously fudged.  https://jfk.boards.net/post/57/thread

And no matter how many times he says it. The dicta belt times just cannot be relied upon. - It is garbage.

[Mitch Todd]

lol - All clocks are wrong except for the time that implicate Oswald.   
Bowley said his watch could have been off, therefore it WAS. Todd hangs around laundromats looking for who might set a watch by the clock on the wall.
 Never did see anyone, therefore it was at least 1:15p https://jfk.boards.net/post/3903/thread

Meanwhile - 3 witnesses corroborate the earlier time of shooting (before 1:10p) - He just doesn't like them.
4 Documents also indicating an earlier time of death are obviously fudged.  https://jfk.boards.net/post/57/thread

And no matter how many times he says it. The dicta belt times just cannot be relied upon. - It is garbage.

In the 70's, Dallas Morning News reporter Earl Golz interviewed a nurse named Thompson, who was one of the Methodist ER staff attending to Tippit that afternoon. She said that the Methodist ER clock was off by 15 minutes that day. Dale Myers interviewed Dr Mohlenhoff, who assisted Dr Liguori's attempt to resuscitate Tippit. Mohlenhoff said that any timing discrepancy would have been due to issues with the Methodist time system. Therefore, your attempt to build a case around Methodist time will fail miserably, since you're relying on the least realiable clock that day.






 
 

 

[Michael Capasse]

In the 70's, Dallas Morning News reporter Earl Golz interviewed a nurse named Thompson, who was one of the Methodist ER staff attending to Tippit that afternoon. She said that the Methodist ER clock was off by 15 minutes that day. Dale Myers interviewed Dr Mohlenhoff, who assisted Dr Liguori's attempt to resuscitate Tippit. Mohlenhoff said that any timing discrepancy would have been due to issues with the Methodist time system. Therefore, your attempt to build a case around Methodist time will fail miserably, since you're relying on the least realiable clock that day.

 who said 4 documents rely on one clock? 

[Mitch Todd]

who said 4 documents rely on one clock? 

None of your four documents reference any clock, and all are second, third, or fourth-hand accounts. As such they are usless for what you think you can prove.

[Michael Capasse]

None of your four documents reference any clock, and all are second, third, or fourth-hand accounts. As such they are usless for what you think you can prove.

  Those are official time documents