Tippit Debate

[Bill Brown]

But they got to 10th street from Crawford and you can't do that anymore.

That makes no difference.  Whether one goes down Crawford or over to Patton and then down Patton, it's the same distance.  Look at a map, John.

I've never seen you criticize Gary Mack's guy for "hauling ass" and he got there faster than we did.  Just stop it.

[Zeon Mason]

Bill you should consider that Oswald double timed a few times while going the 7 blocks to the bus then when going to Whaley’s taxi.
Also probably when he exited Whaley’s taxi Oswald may have double timed back to the house.

It’s even possible Oswald might have jogged sporadically when he left the boarding room to go to wherever he was intending to go.)

This way you can shave off enough time to actually get Oswald to 10th and Patton by 1.07 , shoot Tippit at 1:08, leave the scene by 1:09 and then everything works out with Markams1:07 sighting, Bolleys 1:10 radio call and the ambulance trip works and Tippit arrivesto the hospital at 1:15 pm and pronounced DOA at 1:15 just as the emergency room doctor documented it.

[Bill Brown]

Bill you should consider that Oswald double timed a few times while going the 7 blocks to the bus then when going to Whaley’s taxi.
Also probably when he exited Whaley’s taxi Oswald may have double timed back to the house.

It’s even possible Oswald might have jogged sporadically when he left the boarding room to go to wherever he was intending to go.)

This way you can shave off enough time to actually get Oswald to 10th and Patton by 1.07 , shoot Tippit at 1:08, leave the scene by 1:09 and then everything works out with Markams1:07 sighting, Bolleys 1:10 radio call and the ambulance trip works and Tippit arrivesto the hospital at 1:15 pm and pronounced DOA at 1:15 just as the emergency room doctor documented it.

Bill you should consider that Oswald double timed a few times while going the 7 blocks to the bus then when going to Whaley’s taxi.
Also probably when he exited Whaley’s taxi Oswald may have double timed back to the house.

It’s even possible Oswald might have jogged sporadically when he left the boarding room to go to wherever he was intending to go.

It's definitely possible.

Bolleys 1:10 radio call

Bowley's call was at 1:17.

[Michael Capasse]

Bowley's call was at 1:17.

where do you get this garbage from? 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There are three different and contradictory versions of DPD radio logs.
The WC accepted 2 obviously doctored versions before pretending to get a complete one.
And that did not happen until the investigation was just about over.

March 1964
The 1st version was given to the WC. It is Exhibit 705.
The DPD portion takes up 104 pages. It was made available by Inspector Sawyer.
There is a lack of name identification for many of the code numbers.

April 8, 1964
"Sawyer Exhibit A and B" is only 12 pages and accepted without question.
The version was also prepared with no names but at some point the names were added in longhand.
It also misidentified some and failed to identify others.

August 11, 1964
In response to a WC request the FBI supplied the final version. It is Exhibit 1974.
216 pages yet incomplete by the WCs design.
They limited the periods to be covered to only nine hours for the three-days.
The WC was almost finished with its work.
source: Harold Weisberg | Whitewash

[Mitch Todd]

where do you get this garbage from? 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
There are three different and contradictory versions of DPD radio logs.
The WC accepted 2 obviously doctored versions before pretending to get a complete one.
And that did not happen until the investigation was just about over.

March 1964
The 1st version was given to the WC. It is Exhibit 705.
The DPD portion takes up 104 pages. It was made available by Inspector Sawyer.
There is a lack of name identification for many of the code numbers.

April 8, 1964
"Sawyer Exhibit A and B" is only 12 pages and accepted without question.
The version was also prepared with no names but at some point the names were added in longhand.
It also misidentified some and failed to identify others.

August 11, 1964
In response to a WC request the FBI supplied the final version. It is Exhibit 1974.
216 pages yet incomplete by the WCs design.
They limited the periods to be covered to only nine hours for the three-days.
The WC was almost finished with its work.
source: Harold Weisberg | Whitewash

1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds. 

[Michael Capasse]

1:17 is taken from the recordings of the radio traffic on Channel 1. IIRC, Dale Meyers works up from the 1:16 transmissions and gets 1:17:41. If you search this website, there's a post (https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3459.msg129217.html#msg129217)  where I worked backwards from the 1:19 transmissions to put the start of the Bowley transmission at 1:17:54 +/- 10 seconds.

Regurgitating someone else's garbage means even less.

[John Iacoletti]

That makes no difference.  Whether one goes down Crawford or over to Patton and then down Patton, it's the same distance.  Look at a map, John.

I've never seen you criticize Gary Mack's guy for "hauling ass" and he got there faster than we did.  Just stop it.

Gary Mack's video didn't show much of the actual walk.  Nor do we see the guy flailing his arm in an attempt to keep up, like your friend.