T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17

[Richard Smith]

Just want to clarify that I was NOT suggesting some conspirator got on the bus pretending to be Oswald. That certainly would be an unnecessary thing to be done by conspirators

What I was suggesting was to discard THIS PART of the WC scenario for  Oswald’s route from leaving TSBD to getting to Whaleys taxi.

Bledsoe account of seeing Oswald on the bus wearing a brown shirt with hole in the sleeve cannot be accepted as valid if Oswald was not wearing that brown shirt yet. Therefore her ID of Oswald must be doubted.

McWatters never did actually ID Oswald as the man he gave a ticket too. Therefore more reasonable  doubt that Oswald was ever on that bus.

If the premise is that Oswald’s intent after leaving TSBD as early as 12:34 was to get back to the boarding house asap, the most logical thing would be to get a taxi directly and it would cost him just a mere 90 cents of that 13 dollars he was carrying.

So for we know there was just some man who banged on the bus door, sat down for a few minutes ,  got a transfer ticket from McWatters about 12:43  , then that man left the bus and know telling where he went from there.

Bill Brown was trying to work out this time line anomaly in a more complicated way (imo) and my suggestion was to simply eliminate the bus ride account as “unconfirmed” and in doing so, Oswald going directly to the taxi  being a logical  route if his intent was to return to the boarding house ASAP would have Oswald entering Whaleys taxi as early as 12:40.

Oswald had a transfer from the bus in his pocket.  It was given to him that day.  Your choices are that Oswald got on the bus or there was a conspiracy to frame him and for some unknown reason the fantasy conspirators decided to fake his presence on the bus.   The evidence elminates any other possibilities like a mistaken identification.

[Michael Capasse]

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Has Brown ever properly documented his call with Jones?
It's a shame the WC never called Jones to clarify what he saw.
And a disgrace the lineup fill ins were cops dressed in suits - but it did make the choice more obvious:

Mr. McWATTERS - Well, just like I say, he was the shortest man in the lineup, in other words, when they brought these
men out there, in other words, he was about the shortest, and the lightest weight one, I guess, was the reason I
say that he looked like the man, because the rest of them were larger men than--

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Mr. BALL - Now you have named him Milton Jones.
Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, he was--

Mr. BALL - Now you realize you were mistaken in your identification that night?
Mr. McWATTERS - That is right.

Mr. BALL - As I understand it, neither then nor now are you able to identify or say that you have again
seen the man that got off your bus to whom you gave a transfer?

Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir; I couldn't. I could not identify him.

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Ted Callaway  | WC Testimony

Mr. CALLAWAY. We first went into the room. There was Jim Leavelle, the detective, Sam Guinyard, and then this busdriver and myself.
We waited down there for probably 20 or 30 minutes. And Jim told us, "When I show you these guys, be sure,. take your time,
see if you can make a positive identification."

Mr. BALL. Had you known him before?

Mr. CALLAWAY. No. And he said, "We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer.
We think he is the same one that shot the President. But if we can wrap him up tight on killing this officer, we have got him."
So they brought four men in.

[Martin Weidmann]

Oswald had a transfer from the bus in his pocket.  It was given to him that day.  Your choices are that Oswald got on the bus or there was a conspiracy to frame him and for some unknown reason the fantasy conspirators decided to fake his presence on the bus.   The evidence elminates any other possibilities like a mistaken identification.

Oswald had a transfer from the bus in his pocket.  It was given to him that day.

Really? So why wasn't it found on him in several searches?

[Bill Brown]

Oswald had a transfer from the bus in his pocket.  It was given to him that day.

Really? So why wasn't it found on him in several searches?

Oswald wasn't properly searched until they finally searched him and found the bus transfer in the shirt pocket and five live bullets in his left front pants pocket.

[Martin Weidmann]

Oswald wasn't properly searched until they finally searched him and found the bus transfer in the shirt pocket and five live bullets in his left front pants pocket.

So the DPD was completely incompetent?

[Michael Capasse]

He was "completely searched and nothing was left in his pockets"
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[Richard Smith]

Oswald wasn't properly searched until they finally searched him and found the bus transfer in the shirt pocket and five live bullets in his left front pants pocket.

It's hard to fathom the logic behind suggesting that a short delay in finding the bus transfer after his arrest lends itself somehow to it being planted.  But again, this implies that Oswald never got on the bus, and someone is trying to place Oswald there by planting evidence.  We are left in a sense of wonderment, however, as to WHY they are doing this.  In this CTer fantasy, the DPD or someone goes to the considerable risk of planting evidence in a homicide case - and not just any homicide case but the assassination of the president.  WHY is it so important for them to place Oswald on this bus that goes nowhere?  How do they ensure that the driver and other passengers either support or at least don't refute that Oswald got on that bus?  How do they know that Oswald was not in the presence of someone else who could vouch for him at the time he was supposed to be on the bus?   None of that is ever addressed.  It's just the transfer wasn't found right away, so that makes it suspect for some unspecified reason.