T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17

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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2024, 09:57:32 PM »
LOL.  You can tell CTers are cornered with they start playing the everything is suspect, but they are not suggesting a conspiracy card.  HA HA HA.  Now where have I heard that one before?  Maybe in "Europe"?   So the bus transfer was not planted?  How about instead of trying to decipher whatever point you are trying to make that you just lay it out for once?  I tried to help you communicate in complete thoughts.  Try this "I think Oswald was/was not on the bus because [here you fill in a thought].

cornered? - I don't think so. All I said was that he was completely searched when he was arrested.
I showed a document to prove it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53757723472_86ccd680a9_o.png

Here is a link to 4 witnesses saw a man leave the plaza in a car. 2 of them said it looked like Oswald.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7693

Does that mean I choose the car and you choose the bus? -  NO !
It means the case against Oswald is completely inconsistent and broken.
So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.



« Last Edit: May 31, 2024, 10:05:11 PM by Michael Capasse »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2024, 10:17:08 PM »
cornered? - I don't think so. All I said was that he was completely searched when he was arrested.
I showed a document to prove it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53757723472_86ccd680a9_o.png

Here is a link to 4 witnesses saw a man leave the plaza in a car. 2 of them said it looked like Oswald.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7693

Does that mean I choose the car and you choose the bus? -  NO !
It means the case against Oswald is completely inconsistent and broken.
So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.

So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.

You can't talk to him like that. He doesn't have a clue what the words "legitimate criticisms" mean.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #86 on: June 01, 2024, 01:23:41 PM »
cornered? - I don't think so. All I said was that he was completely searched when he was arrested.
I showed a document to prove it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53757723472_86ccd680a9_o.png

Here is a link to 4 witnesses saw a man leave the plaza in a car. 2 of them said it looked like Oswald.

https://jfk.boards.net/post/7693

Does that mean I choose the car and you choose the bus? -  NO !
It means the case against Oswald is completely inconsistent and broken.
So ramble all day Richard with your dopey conspirator stories you try to pin on legitimate criticisms of this case.

"Completely" searched.  LOL.   Once again you have failed to address a single substantive point or even tell us what you are suggesting.  This is real simple.  If Oswald wasn't on that bus, then someone MUST have planted the transfer.  The police said it was found in Oswald's possession.  There are only two possible explanations for this:  1) Oswald was given the transfer by the bus driver; or 2) it was planted on him by DPD.  If you are suggesting that the transfer was planted - and why else would you harp on this - then that means you are the proponent of the "dopey conspirator stories."   If so, that begs an explanation for which I've repeatedly try to get from you.  WHY would the police want to place Oswald on that bus?  How does this advance the cause of framing him?  If there is no point to this from the perspective of framing Oswald, then that lends itself to the conclusion the transfer was not planted and Oswald was on the bus.  So spin us a yarn and explain why anyone trying to frame Oswald would need to place him on that bus.  The bus that takes him nowhere.

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #87 on: June 01, 2024, 02:06:21 PM »
"Completely" searched.  LOL.   Once again you have failed to address a single substantive point or even tell us what you are suggesting.  This is real simple.  If Oswald wasn't on that bus, then someone MUST have planted the transfer.  The police said it was found in Oswald's possession.  There are only two possible explanations for this:  1) Oswald was given the transfer by the bus driver; or 2) it was planted on him by DPD.  If you are suggesting that the transfer was planted - and why else would you harp on this - then that means you are the proponent of the "dopey conspirator stories."   If so, that begs an explanation for which I've repeatedly try to get from you.  WHY would the police want to place Oswald on that bus?  How does this advance the cause of framing him?  If there is no point to this from the perspective of framing Oswald, then that lends itself to the conclusion the transfer was not planted and Oswald was on the bus.  So spin us a yarn and explain why anyone trying to frame Oswald would need to place him on that bus.  The bus that takes him nowhere.

I'm sorry, I don't have time for your nonsense - I stated my case with documentation to back it up.
U can spend the rest of the day making what you think a fantasy conspirator would do, of course could never be proven.
Up to you, that means nothing to me.  These facts remain:

Lee was "completely searched" at the time of his arrest.
There were no bullets or bus transfer found on his person.

4 people saw a man leave DP in a car.  2 of them said it looked like Lee Oswald.
When the suspect was asked about this, he did not deny it.

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I'll go one step further

The WC was already aware what was expected of them as early as January 1964:
https://jfk.boards.net/post/7711

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #88 on: June 01, 2024, 03:48:06 PM »
I'm sorry, I don't have time for your nonsense - I stated my case with documentation to back it up.
U can spend the rest of the day making what you think a fantasy conspirator would do, of course could never be proven.
Up to you, that means nothing to me.  These facts remain:

Lee was "completely searched" at the time of his arrest.
There were no bullets or bus transfer found on his person.

4 people saw a man leave DP in a car.  2 of them said it looked like Lee Oswald.
When the suspect was asked about this, he did not deny it.

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I'll go one step further

The WC was already aware what was expected of them as early as January 1964:
https://jfk.boards.net/post/7711

You have time to type another rant but can't answer a very simple question?  Why would anyone plant evidence to place Oswald on the bus?  How can you suggest the bus transfer was planted but then claim you are not suggesting a conspiracy?  If Oswald left in a car, wouldn't that confirm a conspiracy?  It wasn't his car.  Why would anyone be picking him up in the middle of the day except to aid in his escape?  It's an interesting psychological insight to watch you struggle so mightily against accepting the consequences of your own claims having validity.

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2024, 03:50:12 PM »
You have time to type another rant but can't answer a very simple question?  Why would anyone plant evidence to place Oswald on the bus?  How can you suggest the bus transfer was planted but then claim you are not suggesting a conspiracy?  If Oswald left in a car, wouldn't that confirm a conspiracy?  It wasn't his car.  Why would anyone be picking him up in the middle of the day except to aid in his escape?  It's an interesting psychological insight to watch you struggle so mightily against accepting the consequences of your own claims having validity.

I am not struggling with anything.
Have a good day, Richard.  :)

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: T.F. Bowley, A Wind-Up Wristwatch & 1:17
« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2024, 09:30:11 PM »
It's hard to fathom the logic behind suggesting that a short delay in finding the bus transfer after his arrest lends itself somehow to it being planted.  But again, this implies that Oswald never got on the bus, and someone is trying to place Oswald there by planting evidence.  We are left in a sense of wonderment, however, as to WHY they are doing this.  In this CTer fantasy, the DPD or someone goes to the considerable risk of planting evidence in a homicide case - and not just any homicide case but the assassination of the president.  WHY is it so important for them to place Oswald on this bus that goes nowhere?  How do they ensure that the driver and other passengers either support or at least don't refute that Oswald got on that bus?  How do they know that Oswald was not in the presence of someone else who could vouch for him at the time he was supposed to be on the bus?   None of that is ever addressed.  It's just the transfer wasn't found right away, so that makes it suspect for some unspecified reason.

You make a great point, Richard; one that is never properly addressed.