That Is Not Officer Haygood = Conspiracy! Prove Me Wrong Challenge

[John Corbett]

    I see you guys no longer Challenge my PROVING this is Not Motorcycle Officer Haygood. This is progress.
    NOW that you have accepted my having dispatched the erroneous Officer Haygood ID, there are obvious questions which follow. How about we now discuss the bona fides surrounding this Alleged DPD Motorcycle Cop?

We do not accept your claims of proof. It is an empty claim by you. We have no burden to disprove something you have never proven.

[Royell Storing]

We do not accept your claims of proof. It is an empty claim by you. We have no burden to disprove something you have never proven.

     Do you see the title of this thread? It says, "PROVE Me Wrong".  I offer: (1) documented timelines, and, (2) sworn testimonies. You offer absolutely No Evidence to refute these Facts. Why? Because you can't.  Just because YOU "do not accept" it, doesn't mean squat. 
    You should be interested in just where this alleged motorcycle cop came from. But this is why this murder remains unsolved after 62+ years. People such as yourself simply do not have the JFK Assassination Foundational Knowledge to realize the other dominoes this impacts. And, it also brings back into the conversation the motorcycle(s) being testified to going up the grassy knoll. But again, YOU don't know squat about this too.   

[John Mytton]

    12:36 - Officer Harkness makes radio transmission that he is bringing an eyewitness/Amos Euins to the TSBD

    12:37 - Officer Harkness helps load Amos Euins into the car of Inspector Sawyer in front of the TSBD

    12:38 - Officer Harkness secures the back of the TSBD as instructed. This is where we see him above.

              At 12:38 PM, Motorcycle Officer Haygood was back at his motorcycle near the Triple Underpass. He was conducting eyewitness interviews. The motorcycle cop above is NOT Officer Haygood.  Who is this alleged Motorcycle Officer? Where did he come from?  Where is his Motorcycle?

12:32 Haywood at the top of triple overpass
12:33 Haywood talks to Tague
12:34 Haywood talks to another eyewitness
12:35 Haywood talks to dispatch
12:36 - Officer Harkness makes radio transmission that he is bringing an eyewitness/Amos Euins to the TSBD
12:37 Haywood on the radio asks to secure the TSBD and then makes his way to the rear of the TSBD by way of the railway yard
12:37 - Officer Harkness helps load Amos Euins into the car of Inspector Sawyer in front of the TSBD
12:38 - Officer Harkness secures the back of the TSBD as instructed. This is where we see him above.
12:38 Haywood while walking through the railyard is filmed by Darnell and is captured on film walking past Harkness.

The reason Haywood isn't wearing his glove is because he was using his right hand to use the radio and in his haste to get to the rear of the TSBD was carrying his right glove in his left hand.

Case Closed!

JohnM

[John Corbett]

     Do you see the title of this thread? It says, "PROVE Me Wrong".  I offer: (1) documented timelines, and, (2) sworn testimonies. You offer absolutely No Evidence to refute these Facts. Why? Because you can't.  Just because YOU "do not accept" it, doesn't mean squat. 
    You should be interested in just where this alleged motorcycle cop came from. But this is why this murder remains unsolved after 62+ years. People such as yourself simply do not have the JFK Assassination Foundational Knowledge to realize the other dominoes this impacts. And, it also brings back into the conversation the motorcycle(s) being testified to going up the grassy knoll. But again, YOU don't know squat about this too.   

I have no obligation to meet your demands. I am content to point out how illogical your conclusions are. While you continue to make unsupported assertions, I have hard evidence that supports my stated beliefs. Essentially, those beliefs are that Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK and wounded JBC, that there is no credible evidence that anyone else fired a shot in Dealey Plaza on that day, that less than 45 minutes after killing JFK, Oswald shot and killed DPD officer J. D. Tippit who had stopped him for questioning. There is overwhelming forensic evidence that supports all of the above.

Now if you dispute my statement that there is no credible evidence that anyone other than Oswald took part in the assassination of JFK, please list your three best pieces of evidence that someone other than Oswald was complicit in the crime.

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I have issued this challenge countless times over the past 35 years on various forums. No one has been able to meet the challenge and few have tried. Of course you can choose to decline to meet my challenge, but since you are the one claiming there was a conspiracy, the burden is on you to support your claim. If you are unable to do so, you make it easy to ignore you.

[Royell Storing]

12:32 Haywood at the top of triple overpass
12:33 Haywood talks to Tague
12:34 Haywood talks to another eyewitness
12:35 Haywood talks to dispatch
12:36 - Officer Harkness makes radio transmission that he is bringing an eyewitness/Amos Euins to the TSBD
12:37 Haywood on the radio asks to secure the TSBD and then makes his way to the rear of the TSBD by way of the railway yard
12:37 - Officer Harkness helps load Amos Euins into the car of Inspector Sawyer in front of the TSBD
12:38 - Officer Harkness secures the back of the TSBD as instructed. This is where we see him above.
12:38 Haywood while walking through the railyard is filmed by Darnell and is captured on film walking past Harkness.

The reason Haywood isn't wearing his glove is because he was using his right hand to use the radio and in his haste to get to the rear of the TSBD was carrying his right glove in his left hand.

Case Closed!

JohnM

   JOHN - You got your Haygood stuff wrong.  Cancellare took a photo of Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass. Haygood is wearing BOTH GLOVES in that photo. We next see the alleged Haygood on the Darnell film. He is near the end of the string of passenger train cars. Haygood is wearing ONLY 1 Glove in this Darnell Film footage. Somewhere between the top of the Triple Underpass and the end of the passenger train cars, the alleged Haygood removed a glove for some reason. The distance between the top of the Triple Underpass and the train cars would only be about 40 yds. Haygood used his radio AFTER he returned to his motorcycle. Haygood used the radio AFTER already having been filmed by Darnell wearing only 1 glove. Haygood did NOT Secure the rear of the TSBD. Officer Harkness secured the rear of the TSBD.
   If you look closely at the (L) hand of the alleged Haygood, he is Not carrying a glove. A glove would Not steadily maintain its' shape as this individual walks across the railroad yard. The object in the (L) hand steadily maintains a cylinder-like shape. You probably need to examine a better definition Darnell Film. Ask Barber what he thinks he is seeing. Steve is extremely helpful with respect to the Darnell Film.

 

[John Mytton]

   JOHN - You got your Haygood stuff wrong.  Cancellare took a photo of Haygood standing atop the Triple Underpass. Haygood is wearing BOTH GLOVES in that photo. We next see the alleged Haygood on the Darnell film. He is near the end of the string of passenger train cars. Haygood is wearing ONLY 1 Glove in this Darnell Film footage. Somewhere between the top of the Triple Underpass and the end of the passenger train cars, the alleged Haygood removed a glove for some reason. The distance between the top of the Triple Underpass and the train cars would only be about 40 yds. Haygood used his radio AFTER he returned to his motorcycle. Haygood used the radio AFTER already having been filmed by Darnell wearing only 1 glove. Haygood did NOT Secure the rear of the TSBD. Officer Harkness secured the rear of the TSBD.
   If you look closely at the (L) hand of the alleged Haygood, he is Not carrying a glove. A glove would Not steadily maintain its' shape as this individual walks across the railroad yard. The object in the (L) hand steadily maintains a cylinder-like shape. You probably need to examine a better definition Darnell Film. Ask Barber what he thinks he is seeing. Steve is extremely helpful with respect to the Darnell Film.

Huh, you better reread ALL the testimony?
Haywood went back to his Motorcycle and as confirmed by Tague, Tague was talking to Haywood about 2-3 minutes after the assassination.

Mr. TAGUE. ..... And we walked up to the---by this time the motorcycle policeman returned back close to where his motorcycle was, and we walked up there and there was a man standing there. Seeing that he was very excited--I don't remember his name at the time I did have it on the tip of my tongue very excited saying he was watching the President and it seemed like his head just exploded. This was a couple or 3 minutes after this happened.

Then Haywood made some calls, the last being at 12:37, then Haywood said he went to the rear of the TSBD and obviously took the high road next to the railway cars when he passed Harkness.

Haygood did NOT Secure the rear of the TSBD. Officer Harkness secured the rear of the TSBD.

Irrelevant!

Mr. BELIN. What did you do then?
Mr. HAYGOOD. At that time I went to the School Building at the rear location of it, which would be
Mr. BELIN. To the back door?
Mr. HAYGOOD. North side of it, yes.
Mr. BELIN. Where that door leads out there to the dock?
Mr. HAYGOOD. Yes; on the northeast corner there.

Your insignificant evidence of a missing glove is real weak sauce because by the time Haygood is captured by Darnell is many minutes after he returned to his motorcycle.
The reason that Haywood removed his glove could have been to operate his radio or to take notes and then he rushed away to the rear of the TSBD and simply carried his glove.
The alternative of the "impostor" removing his glove or not even having one in the first place goes absolutely nowhere and so far you have not provided any sort of sensible narrative for your gloveless "imposter" whereas I just provided two very logical alternatives.

Sorry Royell but this "impostor" theory is dead in the water because the timed radio calls by both Haywood and Harkness @12:37 are precisely co-ordinated.



JohnM

[Royell Storing]

Huh, you better reread ALL the testimony?
Haywood went back to his Motorcycle and as confirmed by Tague, Tague was talking to Haywood about 2-3 minutes after the assassination.

Mr. TAGUE. ..... And we walked up to the---by this time the motorcycle policeman returned back close to where his motorcycle was, and we walked up there and there was a man standing there. Seeing that he was very excited--I don't remember his name at the time I did have it on the tip of my tongue very excited saying he was watching the President and it seemed like his head just exploded. This was a couple or 3 minutes after this happened.

Then Haywood made some calls, the last being at 12:37, then Haywood said he went to the rear of the TSBD and obviously took the high road next to the railway cars when he passed Harkness.

Irrelevant!

Mr. BELIN. What did you do then?
Mr. HAYGOOD. At that time I went to the School Building at the rear location of it, which would be
Mr. BELIN. To the back door?
Mr. HAYGOOD. North side of it, yes.
Mr. BELIN. Where that door leads out there to the dock?
Mr. HAYGOOD. Yes; on the northeast corner there.

Your insignificant evidence of a missing glove is real weak sauce because by the time Haygood is captured by Darnell is many minutes after he returned to his motorcycle.
The reason that Haywood removed his glove could have been to operate his radio or to take notes and then he rushed away to the rear of the TSBD and simply carried his glove.
The alternative of the "impostor" removing his glove or not even having one in the first place goes absolutely nowhere and so far you have not provided any sort of sensible narrative for your gloveless "imposter" whereas I just provided two very logical alternatives.

Sorry Royell but this "impostor" theory is dead in the water because the timed radio calls by both Haywood and Harkness @12:37 are precisely co-ordinated.



JohnM

    John - Thanks for taking the time to give this Unknown Motorcycle Cop your attention. Your going out of your way to examine it reveals the importance of this issue.
              As I understand your post above, the Darnell Film still frame showing Walthers, Harkness, and HAYGOOD together, is happening when Haygood went to secure the dock, the "northeast corner" of the TSBD. And, you are claiming we are seeing HAYGOOD, Walthers, and Harkness together, AFTER Haygood made his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle parked close to the Triple Underpass. 
              With respect to your claim above, you have forgotten the Darnell Film still frame showing HAYGOOD, Walthers, & Harkness together is the END of Darnell's filming of the string of passenger train cars. When we first see the Alleged HAYGOOD on this Darnell passenger train cars snippet, HAYGOOD is standing at the very END of the string of passenger train cars. We also see Walthers in front of him at this same time. From the END of this string of passenger train cars, we then see Haygood walking alongside these passenger train cars. Haygood is filmed walking past passenger train car by passenger train car. And Walthers is also walking in front of him. (Both Darnell and Martin film this). The walking along the string of train cars goes on until both Haygood and Walthers reach Harkness. All 3 of them are then filmed together. When we 1st see HAYGOOD on the Darnell Film, he is standing in front of the very last passenger train car. At this point, Haygood is far closer to the grassy knoll, the picket fence, and the parking lot, than he is to the "northeast corner" of the TSBD. If as you claim, we are seeing HAYGOOD going to secure the TSBD "Northeast Corner" dock area after making his 12:37 radio transmission, why is Haygood deep inside the railroad yard and closer to the Triple Underpass than the TSBD "Northeast Corner" loading dock? The TSBD "northeast corner" loading dock is close to Houston St. The Darnell Film shows Haygood being halfway across Dealey Plaza and deep inside the railroad yard. He is not close to TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock. Again, your claim is that we are seeing Haygood in this location AFTER he made his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle that was parked at the Elm St curb close to the Triple Underpass. Darnell filmed Walthers at that last passenger train car, after Walthers climbed over the picket fence, crossed the parking lot on the other side of the picket fence, and then went back inside the railroad yard. Do you believe this is how Haygood got back inside the railroad yard after making his 12:37 radio transmission from his motorcycle at the Elm St curb near the triple underpass? Do you believe Haygood climbed over the picket fence, or he climbed over the Triple Underpass AGAIN? And why would Haygood take this route if his intended destination was the TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock? This route to the TSBD loading dock makes no sense.
               On top of that, with Walthers being filmed with Haygood AFTER Haygood made his 12:37 radio transmission, you also have a timeline issue. Walthers was photo'd on the (S) side of Elm St checking out the manhole cover. In the background of that photo is the TSBD Clock. It reads 12:39. You have to get Walthers in this (S) Elm St position by 12:39.  None of this fits.
               If Haygood intended to go to the TSBD "Northeast corner" loading dock, (near Houston St), AFTER making his 12:37 radio transmission, why was he filmed by Darnell deep inside the railroad yard, close to the grassy knoll, picket fence, parking lot?           

[John Corbett]

    John - Thanks for taking the time to give this Unknown Motorcycle Cop your attention. Your going out of your way to examine it reveals the importance of this issue.

Important to whom? Maybe you haven't noticed but our country is at war, there is a critical midterm coming up that will decide control of Congress, and dozens of issues Americans care a hell of a lot more about than anything that goes on in this and a handful of other forums. If you were to put a number on the percentage of people who still care about the JFKA, how many zeros would there be to the right of the decimal point?