JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth

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1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
 
May have?
 
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?

 
Memory improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not.

If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?


The belief in a conspiracy exists only because of an imaginary third shot and JBC’s belief he was hit by a separate bullet based on a time frame beyond the capabilities of the Carcano. JBC wasn’t hit by a separate shot according to all the witnesses around him.

The belief in a conspiracy exists because 1) Dealey Plaza was an echo chamber, making it hard for the lackadaisical-then-startled witnesses to count the number / timing / duration of the shots, 2) The assassin who fired all three shots from the sixth-floor Sniper's Nest and whose prints were found on the murder weapon (Oswald) took 10.2 seconds to fire them, more than enough time to fire the last two accurately, 3) the first shot, a steeply downward-angled one, missed everything and sounded "muffled" compared to the other two because the short-rifle's muzzle was completely inside the building when it was fired, 4) the bullet that wounded both JFK and JBC (CE-399) was strangely (i.e., no damage to the nose) and only moderately deformed because it struck only one hard bone (JBC's radial bone), and did so while travelling backwards at a greatly reduced velocity (see below), 5) JFK appears in the Zapruder film to have been stuck about half-a second before JBC only because the bullet nicked his spinal cord, causing his arms and hands to instantaneously react in a neuromuscular way, 6) The seeming contradiction between the non-fragmenting of CE-399 when it hit JBC’s radial bone versus the fragmenting of the third bullet when it hit JFK’s skull was due to the fact that CE-399, having already passed through JFK’s and JBC’s bodies, wasn’t going fast enough to fragment, whereas the headshot bullet was still going about 1800 feet-per-second when it stuck near the thickest part of JFK’s skull – the external occipital protuberance.

 
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
 

And?
 
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.

 
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point.  That is wrong?

The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.


Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).
 
You are preaching to the choir. The HSCA’s expert, Thomas Canning, testified that the only possible explanation for the wound in JBC’s back was the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck. In their own way Knotts Lab proved that.


3) D'oh
 
Meaning?
 
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.

The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.

How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.
 
*Today's SVR and FSB

No doubt at all that the shooter was LHO. Sounds like as good of a reason as any.   
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he belief in a conspiracy exists because 1) Dealey Plaza was an echo chamber, making it hard for the lackadaisical-then-startled witnesses to count the number / timing / duration of the shots, 2) The assassin who fired all three shots from the sixth-floor Sniper's Nest and whose prints were found on the murder weapon (Oswald) took 10.2 seconds to fire them, more than enough time to fire the last two accurately, 3) the first shot, a steeply downward-angled one, missed everything and sounded "muffled" compared to the other two because the short-rifle's muzzle was completely inside the building when it was fired, 4) the bullet that wounded both JFK and JBC (CE-399) was strangely (i.e., no damage to the nose) and only moderately deformed because it struck only one hard bone (JBC's radial bone), and did so while travelling backwards at a greatly reduced velocity (see below), 5) JFK appears in the Zapruder film to have been stuck about half-a second before JBC only because the bullet nicked his spinal cord, causing his arms and hands to instantaneously react in a neuromuscular way, 6) The seeming contradiction between the non-fragmenting of CE-399 when it hit JBC’s radial bone versus the fragmenting of the third bullet when it hit JFK’s skull was due to the fact that CE-399, having already passed through JFK’s and JBC’s bodies, wasn’t going fast enough to fragment, whereas the headshot bullet was still going about 1800 feet-per-second when it stuck near the thickest part of JFK’s skull – the external occipital protuberance.

 

 

Media's influence was the number one contributor to the number of shots reported. Both the WC and the HSCA reference it in their conclusions, the HSCA sound analysis study also referenced medias influence.

Agree with it all except a first missed shot. Eyewitness statements all state JFK reacted to the first shot with the exception of Mary Woodward who places the first shot after Z207. 

Forensic analysis and Josiah Thompson’s observation of the shells discovered in the SN indicate only two were fired in the rifle. The third was used as a snap cap for practicing finger control. As explained by Major Anderson, LHO would have been taught this method and trained to practice in this manner as part of his Marine Corp training.

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  You Failed to mention having to move the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St for that 1st shot. That is a Huge Ask without Any Image Evidence to support it. We have people totally disregarding the story of Gordon Arnold because he is Not on any JFK Assassination Images. Yet, we are supposed to up and move the entire JFK Limo in order to make a 10+ second elapsed firing time work? Who's running this railroad?   

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The belief in a conspiracy exists because 1) Dealey Plaza was an echo chamber, making it hard for the lackadaisical-then-startled witnesses to count the number / timing / duration of the shots, 2) The assassin who fired all three shots from the sixth-floor Sniper's Nest and whose prints were found on the murder weapon (Oswald) took 10.2 seconds to fire them, more than enough time to fire the last two accurately, 3) the first shot, a steeply downward-angled one, missed everything and sounded "muffled" compared to the other two because the short-rifle's muzzle was completely inside the building when it was fired, 4) the bullet that wounded both JFK and JBC (CE-399) was strangely (i.e., no damage to the nose) and only moderately deformed because it struck only one hard bone (JBC's radial bone), and did so while travelling backwards at a greatly reduced velocity (see below), 5) JFK appears in the Zapruder film to have been stuck about half-a second before JBC only because the bullet nicked his spinal cord, causing his arms and hands to instantaneously react in a neuromuscular way, 6) The seeming contradiction between the non-fragmenting of CE-399 when it hit JBC’s radial bone versus the fragmenting of the third bullet when it hit JFK’s skull was due to the fact that CE-399, having already passed through JFK’s and JBC’s bodies, wasn’t going fast enough to fragment, whereas the headshot bullet was still going about 1800 feet-per-second when it stuck near the thickest part of JFK’s skull – the external occipital protuberance.

Media's influence was the number one contributor to the number of shots reported. Both the WC and the HSCA reference it in their conclusions, the HSCA sound analysis study also referenced medias influence.

Were there any witnesses who reported, before they were "contaminated" by the "mistaken" or "evil, evil conspiring" media, that they'd heard three shots? The HSCA's sound analysis study was found to be based on the false premise that the stuck-open microphone was in the motorcade. It wasn't.

Agree with it all except a first missed shot. Eyewitness statements all state JFK reacted to the first shot with the exception of Mary Woodward who places the first shot after Z207.

JFK's reactions (both involuntary and voluntary) to the sounds of the first, missing everything, shot were subtle, unremarkable, and therefore not noticed.

Forensic analysis and Josiah Thompson’s observation of the shells discovered in the SN indicate only two were fired in (sic) the rifle.

What forensic analysis? Two shots over Thompson's six seconds, or two shots over Roselle's and Scearce's 10.2 seconds?

The third [shell] was used as a snap cap for practicing finger control. As explained by Major Anderson, LHO would have been taught this method and trained to practice in this manner as part of his Marine Corp training.

Did Oswald practice "finger control" (click-click . . . snap, click-click . . . snap . . .) while he was waiting for the limo to appear on Houston Street?
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You Failed to mention having to move the physical position of the JFK Limo on Elm St for that 1st shot. That is a Huge Ask without Any Image Evidence to support it. We have people totally disregarding the story of Gordon Arnold because he is Not on any JFK Assassination Images. Yet, we are supposed to up and move the entire JFK Limo in order to make a 10+ second elapsed firing time work? Who's running this railroad?

Storing,

How does "moving" the limo to Elm Street for the first (missing-everything) shot "make a 10+ second elapsed firing time work"?

How long would the elapsed firing time have been if Oswald had taken his first (missing everything) shot at JFK while the limo was still on Houston Street?

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  The JFK Limo was Not moved "to" Elm St, it's position was moved inside Elm St.

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The JFK Limo was Not moved "to" Elm St, its position was moved inside Elm St.

Are you referring to where the limo was at hypothetical "Z-107" (per Holland) or to where it was at hypothetical "Z-124" (per Roselle and Scearce)?

Regardless, don't you trust Tina Towner's memory in "The Lost Bullet" regarding where the limo was, both down-the-street and horizontally, when she heard the first-of-three shots?
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 Tina Towner was 13 yrs old on 11/22/63. And almost 50 yrs later under the encouragement of Max Holland, she's now fixing the position of the JFK Limo based on street signs that were Not inside Dealey Plaza that day? Towner is very confusing and/or confused. And while considering "The Lost Bullet" 11/22/63 eye witnesses, how about Amos Euins? He demonstrated just how closely shots #2 and #3 were fired. POW/POW! There is No Way that bolt action Carcano could come close to matching the Amos Euins shot timing. 
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