JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth

[Mitch Todd]

Yeah, it is interesting that WC apologists dismiss the fact that Gov. Connally himself, the guy who actually experienced the shot, insisted he was certain he was not hit before Z229 and that he chose Z234 as the moment of impact. He said this after carefully studying frames 224 through 238 under high magnification. Z234 makes perfect sense, because his right shoulder is pushed dramatically downward and he gets an obvious pained look on his face starting in Z238, just 0.25 seconds/250 milliseconds later, which is the standard human reaction time. Connally added that he had "no doubt" he was not hit before Z229. But WC apologists lamely argue that Connally was "mistaken." I mean, he was the guy who actually experienced the wounding.

WC apologists must also dismiss the clear evidence that Kennedy was hit long before Z224. The most fiercely debated finding of the HSCA PEP was the finding that JFK was hit at or just before Z190, because everyone knew that Oswald's view of JFK would have been obstructed by the intervening the oak tree at that point, but the evidence is so strong that the substantial majority supported the finding. One item of evidence that convinced most of the PEP members on this point is that there is a strong blur episode from Z189-197.

The Knott Lab SBT trajectory analysis confirms what WC critics have been pointing out for years.

MG: Yeah, it is interesting that WC apologists dismiss the fact that Gov. Connally himself, the guy who actually experienced the shot, insisted he was certain he was not hit before Z229 and that he chose Z234 as the moment of impact.

It's not a good idea to assume that anyone's memories are split-second accurate. Especially after the memorable experience in question is immediately followed by thoracotomy-grade anesthesia. If you think his recollection is sharp enough to pinpoint a specific frame, there's the bridge in Brooklyn that's for sale, cheap....


MG: The most fiercely debated finding of the HSCA PEP was the finding that JFK was hit at or just before Z190, because everyone knew that Oswald's view of JFK would have been obstructed by the intervening the oak tree at that point, but the evidence is so strong that the substantial majority supported the finding. One item of evidence that convinced most of the PEP members on this point is that there is a strong blur episode from Z189-197.

As far as I've ever been able to determine, no one has ever studied how to determine exactly when someone has been shot simply by observing their physical reactions. The PEP was little more than guessing here, and their conclusions accordingly carry no weight.


The Knott Labs SBT trajectory analysis confirms what WC critics have been pointing out for years.

The Knott Lab effort was a second-rate amateurish hogwash. If you watch their promo video you'll find that they have the shot coming from the wrong side of the SN window, and have the bullet impacting JFK at his centerline. The bigger problem is the lack of rigor. A proper trajectory study would acknowledge the uncertainties in the location of the wounds, the differences between the exact size and shape of the models to the real life bodies, any deflection of the bullet after impact, etc. This would result in a series of trajectory cones, not a straight line. Of the various attempts to create a trajectory analysis for the shooting, the best is still the Failure Analysis one from the early 90's. I wouldn't give you $0.02 for the Knott Labs version.


 

[Royell Storing]

 
   Never fails that LN'ers are forced to disregard eyewitness testimony. They always claim it is "unreliable". This is why they have No Idea who testified as to what. Not being familiar with eyewitness testimony is the Biggest Blackest Hole in those that support the LN stuff. Personally, I think they are scared of what they will find in the eyewitness testimony. Testimony like DPD Motorcycle Officer Hargis saying he ran up to that "little wall", "brick wall", and there is absolutely NO Image Evidence to support this. Or SA Lem Johns claiming he jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and was running down Elm St toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot was fired. SA Johns claimed he was left standing in Elm St. Yet, there is absolutely No Image Evidence to support any this. None! This is why the LN Believers know very little about JFK Assassination eyewitness testimony. It proves the JFK Assassination fantasy they continue clinging to is Wrong!

[Tom Graves]

Never fails that LN'ers are forced to disregard eyewitness testimony. They always claim it is "unreliable". This is why they have No Idea who testified as to what. Not being familiar with eyewitness testimony is the Biggest Blackest Hole in those that support the LN stuff. Personally, I think they are scared of what they will find in the eyewitness testimony. Testimony like DPD Motorcycle Officer Hargis saying he ran up to that "little wall", "brick wall", and there is absolutely NO Image Evidence to support this. Or SA Lem Johns claiming he jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and was running down Elm St toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot was fired. SA Johns claimed he was left standing in Elm St. Yet, there is absolutely No Image Evidence to support any this. None! This is why the LN Believers know very little about JFK Assassination eyewitness testimony. It proves the JFK Assassination fantasy they continue clinging to is Wrong!

Storing,

Do you disagree with any of the eyewitnesses?

If so, do you think they made honest mistakes, or do you think they were "Deep State" agents?

[Jack Nessan]

Nessan,

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.

2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.

3) D'oh

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.

May have?

2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.


And?

3) D'oh

?Meaning?

[Tom Graves]

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.

May have?

Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?

2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.

And?

And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.

3) D'oh

Meaning?

Meaning I think you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.

[Jack Nessan]

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
 
May have?
 
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?

His memory only improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not. It is much better to believe the other witnesses.

 
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
 
And?
 
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.

A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?

The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.

 
3) D'oh
 
Meaning?
 
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.

The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.

 

[Tom Graves]

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
 
May have?
 
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?

His memory only improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not. It is much better to believe the other witnesses.

If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?

 
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
 
And?
 
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.

A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point. That is wrong?

The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.

Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).


3) D'oh
 
Meaning?
 
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.

The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.

How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.

*Today's SVR and FSB

[Jack Nessan]

1) Connally eventually admitted that he and JFK may have been hit by the same bullet.
 
May have?
 
Yes, may have. In other words, he was no longer sure that he and JFK were struck by different bullets. Is that okay with you?

 
Memory improved with age to the point he did not know. Sure, why not.

If he had truly been hit by a different bullet, how could he possibly lose his memory and conviction of that no matter how "senile" he may have become later?


The belief in a conspiracy exists only because of an imaginary third shot and JBC’s belief he was hit by a separate bullet based on a time frame beyond the capabilities of the carcano.

JBC wasn’t hit by a separate shot according to all the witnesses around him.

 
2) Knott Labs "analysis" was based on graphics from a video game.
 
And?
 
And so most, if not all, of the measurements and angles in Knott's "analysis" are off.

 
A lot of the video is messed up, but the first shot passes through JFK and strikes JBC in the back. While the graphic is moving JBC laterally the trajectory lines up perfectly at one point.  That is wrong?

The HSCA had an estimated variation in the trajectory analysis.


Knott's "analysis" has Connally's jump-seat misplaced, doesn't have him turned far to his right when he was hit, and deceptively highlights the green trajectory line as it passes diagonally across JFB's back to make it look, optical-illusion-wise, as though the bullet struck even farther to the left than its wrong-for-the-reasons-mentioned-above analysis has it (i.e., off by only about three inches).
 
You are preaching to the choir. The HSCA’s expert, Thomas Canning, testified that the only possible explanation for the wound in JBC’s back was the bullet that passed through JFK’s neck. In their own way Knotts Lab proved that.


3) D'oh
 
Meaning?
 
Meaning you're either incredibly ignorant or you're intentionally spreading disinformation.

The beginning of a new language? Apparently, one only you know the exact meaning. Possible perversion of the Russian language no doubt.

How ironic, seeing how it is you who is wittingly or unwittingly spreading KGB*-approved disinformation, and it is I who believes former sharpshooting Marine radar operator Oswald was sent to Moscow by a KGB "mole" in CIA's mole-hunting Office of Security, not necessarily to be trained or programmed to be an assassin (although one does wonder if he really needed to spend a week in Botkinskaya Hospital -- including a few days in its psych ward -- after allegedly trying to kill himself), but to serve as an unwitting "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" in the wrong part of the CIA.
 
*Today's SVR and FSB

No doubt at all that the shooter was LHO. Sounds like as good of a reason as any.