JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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      SA Kelley NEVER testified that he actually measured the distance from the edge of the jump seat to the edge of the Limo Door. And, the date Kelley gave for the SS Reconstruction he participated in, was actually the "2nd" SS Reconstruction and did NOT use the JFK Limo. Kelley was questioned by Specter who dreamed up the SBT. Specter knew exactly what he needed to make the SBT remotely plausible. Specter was getting his ducks inna row, Take 2. Also, it was very clever of Specter to NOT ask Kelley the distance from the (L) edge of Gov Connally's jump seat to the Hump running down the center of the JFK Limo.   

Kelley doesn't say that he actually measured the distance, that's true. The edge of the door was recessed inboard of where the edge of the car was next to JFK. If one goes by the Hess & Eisenhardt diagram, Connally's seat was about 3.5 inches inboard of the edge of the car next to where JFK was seated. Connally shifting over in his seat as he turned to look around placed him well inboard of JFK. ITEK placed him as much as 8.6 inches inboard of JFK. The Itek film analysis is the gold standard. You'll never be able to put the wound on Connally out of range of the SB trajectory no matter how much you try.

Specter never dreamed up the SBT. He came to the realization of it together with other WC staff lawyers. They were extremely slow in coming to that realization.

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Kelley doesn't say that he actually measured the distance, that's true. The edge of the door was recessed inboard of where the edge of the car was next to JFK. If one goes by the Hess & Eisenhardt diagram, Connally's seat was about 3.5 inches inboard of the edge of the car next to where JFK was seated. Connally shifting over in his seat as he turned to look around placed him well inboard of JFK. ITEK placed him as much as 8.6 inches inboard of JFK. The Itek film analysis is the gold standard. You'll never be able to put the wound on Connally out of range of the SB trajectory no matter how much you try.

Specter never dreamed up the SBT. He came to the realization of it together with other WC staff lawyers. They were extremely slow in coming to that realization.

  They were "extremely slow" because they were forced to keep changing the shots sequence. Specter et al knew the final result had to be 3 shots/1 shooter per LBJ/J Edgar phone call. And then came the chipped curb/Tague. That was another monkey wrench thrown into the works they had to "work" around. I have proved: (1) That is Not Officer Haygood inside the railroad yard on the Darnell Film, and (2) Those "Huge Gates" leading to the TSBD 1st Floor Stairwell were "Wide Open" before and after the Kill Shot.  And currently, I am working on that "Lost Bullet" fired by a 2nd Shooter per the HSCA. Yeah, it did happen.   .......................... STAY TUNED ............................
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They were "extremely slow" because they were forced to keep changing the shots sequence. Specter et al knew the final result had to be 3 shots/1 shooter per LBJ/J Edgar phone call. And then came the chipped curb/Tague. That was another monkey wrench thrown into the works they had to "work" around. I have proved: (1) That is Not Officer Haygood inside the railroad yard on the Darnell Film, and (2) Those "Huge Gates" leading to the TSBD 1st Floor Stairwell were "Wide Open" before and after the Kill Shot.  And currently, I am working on that "Lost Bullet" fired by a 2nd Shooter per the HSCA. Yeah, it did happen.   .......................... STAY TUNED ............................

Storing,

You never did answer my question:

How many bad guys and really, really bad gals do you figure were involved, altogether, in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, the escaping, and the all-important cover up?

Just a few, or oodles and gobs?

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  They were "extremely slow" because they were forced to keep changing the shots sequence. Specter et al knew the final result had to be 3 shots/1 shooter per LBJ/J Edgar phone call. And then came the chipped curb/Tague. That was another monkey wrench thrown into the works they had to "work" around. I have proved: (1) That is Not Officer Haygood inside the railroad yard on the Darnell Film, and (2) Those "Huge Gates" leading to the TSBD 1st Floor Stairwell were "Wide Open" before and after the Kill Shot.  And currently, I am working on that "Lost Bullet" fired by a 2nd Shooter per the HSCA. Yeah, it did happen.   .......................... STAY TUNED ............................

They never changed the shot sequence. The Tague strike had nothing to do with the SBT. The Tague strike never became an issue until June 1964. They were talking among themselves about the SBT as early as March and they were duplicating the vertical angle of it in May. Your points 1 and 2 have nothing to do with the SBT. There was no second shooter.

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  I understand the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community being embarrassed with respect to the JFK Assassination discoveries I have made in a very short period of time. If I were a member of this "club", I would be embarrassed too. The HSCA declared that a 4th Shot/Missed Shot by a 2nd shooter was made on 11/22/63. Josiah Thompson stands behind that HSCA finding/Dictabelt to this day. I am now working on pinning down that 4th shot/Lost Bullet.   
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  I understand the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community being embarrassed with respect to the JFK Assassination discoveries I have made in a very short period of time. If I were a member of this "club", I would be embarrassed too. The HSCA declared that a 4th Shot/Missed Shot by a 2nd shooter was made on 11/22/63. Josiah Thompson stands behind that HSCA finding/Dictabelt to this day. I am now working on pinning down that 4th shot/Lost Bullet.

Are you a twin of Brian Doyle? You have the same mannerisms. He talks big and is a major ignorer of reality.

The HSCA did not declare that a 4th Shot/Missed Shot by a 2nd shooter was made on 11/22/63. They said that 4th Shot/Missed Shot by a 2nd shooter was PROBABLY made on 11/22/63. That "probably" finding was based on bogus acoustics evidence. The National Academy of Sciences set it aside in 1982. They debunked it.

For these reasons and for others given in detail in the report, the National Research Council Committee on Ballistic Acoustics unanimously concludes that:

- The acoustic analyses do not demonstrate that there was a grassy knoll shot, and in particular there is no acoustic basis for the claim of 95% probability of such a shot.

- The acoustic impulses attributed to gunshots were recorded about one minute after the President had been shot and the motorcade had been instructed to go to the hospital.

- Therefore, reliable acoustic data do not support a conclusion that there was a second gunman.

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The HSCA had a number of other findings. There are no "probably" qualifiers attached to those findings.

1. President Kennedy was struck by two rifle shots fired from behind him.
2. The shots that struck President Kennedy from behind him were fired from the sixth floor window of the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository building.
3. Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle that was used to fire the shots from the sixth floor window of the southeast comer of the Texas School Book Depository building.
4. Lee Harvey Oswald, shortly before the assassination, had access to and was present on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building.
5. Lee Harvey Oswald's other actions tend to support the conclusion that he assassinated President Kennedy.




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I understand the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community being embarrassed with respect to the JFK Assassination discoveries I have made in a very short period of time. If I were a member of this "club", I would be embarrassed too. The HSCA declared that a 4th Shot/Missed Shot by a 2nd shooter was made on 11/22/63. Josiah Thompson stands behind that HSCA finding/Dictabelt to this day. I am now working on pinning down that 4th shot.

Storing,

I personally think your time would be better spent if you used it to pin down a good psychiatrist in your neck of the woods. Maybe he or she can help you with your encouraged-by-Vladimir-Putin tinfoil-hat JFKA Conspiracy Theorist pathologies and your encouraged-by-Vladimir-Putin MAGAT issues.

Regardless, the majority of JFKA witnesses said they heard three shots.

The Dictabelt recording, which Tink Thompson believes proves a four-shot conspiracy, was transmitted at a different time by a stuck-open microphone on a three-wheeled DPD motorcycle that was miles away from Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination, not from a stuck-open microphone on a two-wheeler in the motorcade.

Question: What caused JBC's jacket to bulge outward and his lapel to flap between frames 222 and 225 (going from memory here), and what caused him to raise his beloved Steton hat so soon after JFK had been struck?

Do you agree that JFK's head went violently down and forward between frames 312 and 313?

Why do you have such a strong psychological need to believe the JFKA was a "Deep State" / "Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex" / "National Security State" conspiracy?

Because it dovetails with your love for The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx)?
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  Josiah Thompson stands firmly behind the Dictabelt/4th Shot/2nd Shooter. So much for this being "debunked". Thompson is Fact Based, and there are Supporting Facts with respect to this issue.

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