When Was JBC Hit?

[Andrew Mason]

I'm glad you admit what you've been doing to make your Theory "work".

No.  It is about what you need to do in order to justify calling it "bats_it crazy". (I would write it out in full but it comes out as batspombleprofglidnoctobuns).

• Your distance between JFK and JBC is much greater (than what photos show)
• Connally a bit lower (than photos show him)
• A bit smaller head (more than a bit though; and not what photos show)
• Your model has JBC too far back (Your model has JFK so far back, he morphs into the seat-back)
  (What photos show the President's seat-back as a thin slab, as in your model)?)

I duplicated your model setup with the longer distance between the two men and showed that you used false perspective to align Connally's face with the side window.

When my model has Connally in the middle of the jump-seat, his head aligns with the side window as seen in Z193. But then the bullet goes to the right of Connally's spine.

A sight line is a sightline.  The zoom lens changes perspective but not sightlines.  Changing focal length does not unblock parts that were previously blocked.

In your zoom "correction" you have JFK too far to the right.   



In z193 the sightline from Zapruder blocks up to the right edge of the left trunk hand-hold:

Do you agree with a slope of 21 degrees relative to the car?

Yes. 

How much to raise his thigh (Good Grief) and what is that based on (other than it's necessary to meet your Theory's needs)?

You might use this as a guide:

[Steve Barber]

 

 All,
 
  I posted the wrong gif yesterday, and meant to post the one attached, which is much slower and makes it easier to watch Connally's double shoulder up and down movement.
It's very difficult to see it at regular speed.  My apologies or posting the wrong gif.  It's easiest to see if you watch his right shoulder.

 

[Charles Collins]

 All,
 
  I posted the wrong gif yesterday, and meant to post the one attached, which is much slower and makes it easier to watch Connally's double shoulder up and down movement.
It's very difficult to see it at regular speed.  My apologies or posting the wrong gif.  It's easiest to see if you watch his right shoulder.

 

Thanks Steve, that’s a very clear sequence of frames and it shows the double shoulder movement as you describe. It also shows JFK’s concurrent reactions, JBC’s jacket front flipping out, and JBC’s right hand and arm moving rapidly upwards. All of this happens in a small fraction of a second. It sure looks to me like this is where both JFK and JBC were struck with CE 399.

[Steve Barber]

Thanks Steve, that’s a very clear sequence of frames and it shows the double shoulder movement as you describe. It also shows JFK’s concurrent reactions, JBC’s jacket front flipping out, and JBC’s right hand and arm moving rapidly upwards. All of this happens in a small fraction of a second. It sure looks to me like this is where both JFK and JBC were struck with CE 399.

  My pleasure, Charles.  I'm you are able to see the "hunching" of the shoulders.  It was David Von Pein  who first pointed this out, although I didn't know that he had until after I saw it, and I started a thread in a JFK group and included this gif a long while back, and he posted a note informing us that he had found this himself, and had also posted a gif of it. 
I agree with you all the way that this is further proof of both men reacting simutaneously by the same bullet.  Thanks so much!

[Andrew Mason]

  My pleasure, Charles.  I'm you are able to see the "hunching" of the shoulders.  It was David Von Pein  who first pointed this out, although I didn't know that he had until after I saw it, and I started a thread in a JFK group and included this gif a long while back, and he posted a note informing us that he had found this himself, and had also posted a gif of it. 
I agree with you all the way that this is further proof of both men reacting simutaneously by the same bullet.  Thanks so much!

I don’t dispute that they are reacting at the same time to the same shot. I just disagree that the evidence supports it being the second shot.

[Steve Barber]

I don’t dispute that they are reacting at the same time to the same shot. I just disagree that the evidence supports it being the second shot.

  One of the three shots missed the target.  We know that both men were struck where the film shows them being struck. Energing from behind the stemmons sign, and the fatal shot.
This leaves only one other shot, and that shot had to have been fired early, like around Zapruder frame 155/156. 

 A. Zapruder's camera jiggle proves that a shot was fired there.
 B. The sudden head turns of both JFK and Governor Connally-both of whom were looking to their left. And one thing most people do not notice is that Connally was looking to his right
when Zapruder first began filming, turned to his left, then suddenlly jerked his head back to the right, where his head remained turned during the entire travel down Elm Street until he comes out from behind the sign, which is the first motion he made-other than taking his right hand off the top of the side rail of the car. 

   This is exactly what the Zapruder film shows.  Three sudden reactions to three rifle shot sounds.

[Jack Nessan]

  One of the three shots missed the target.  We know that both men were struck where the film shows them being struck. Energing from behind the stemmons sign, and the fatal shot.
This leaves only one other shot, and that shot had to have been fired early, like around Zapruder frame 155/156. 

 A. Zapruder's camera jiggle proves that a shot was fired there.
 B. The sudden head turns of both JFK and Governor Connally-both of whom were looking to their left. And one thing most people do not notice is that Connally was looking to his right
when Zapruder first began filming, turned to his left, then suddenlly jerked his head back to the right, where his head remained turned during the entire travel down Elm Street until he comes out from behind the sign, which is the first motion he made-other than taking his right hand off the top of the side rail of the car. 

   This is exactly what the Zapruder film shows.  Three sudden reactions to three rifle shot sounds.

The physical evidence does not support three shots. The FBI only noted two of the three shells found in the SN exhibited the “chambering mark” from the rifle. CE 543 did not have the indentation. Even the unfired cartridge exhibited the chambering mark along with the next thirty shells, as was noted by Josiah Thompson, that had been fired in the rifle.

Zapruder--Reactions and Jiggle Analysis? Zapruder is a two shot witness.