Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2023, 10:01:23 PM »
Hi Dan and Royell, I hope that you both are doing well! Can you both comment on this briefing board? Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael


     So these are the Briefing Boards that were NOT prepared by Brugioni?  There were also NOTES that accompanied these briefing boards. Also, NOT composed by Brugioni.

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2023, 10:10:47 PM »
Hi Michael, do you mean the video I posted won't play. I'm not sure what to say as it works for me.
As for the Gerda gif, Hill's movements are perfectly in synch in both clips as are Jackies. Both clips are perfectly synched.
Do you mean that Hill and Jackie seem a lot closer together in the Nix clip than the Zapruder one?

Hi Dan, Just look at your video clip as it is. Only Nix shows Mary in the street. By the way, Nix shows Toni Foster in her raincoat, but Muchmore shows the Babushka Lady! The Nix and Zapruder films simply do not match, in movements, space etc. Only Nix shows what happened! Also can you comment on the briefing board. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2023, 10:18:03 PM »
     So these are the Briefing Boards that were NOT prepared by Brugioni?  There were also NOTES that accompanied these briefing boards. Also, NOT composed by Brugioni.

Hi Royell, Yes, this would be a briefing board done on November 24th, 1963, when the Zapruder film was altered. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2023, 10:45:43 PM »
Hi Dan, Just look at your video clip as it is. Only Nix shows Mary in the street. By the way, Nix shows Toni Foster in her raincoat, but Muchmore shows the Babushka Lady! The Nix and Zapruder films simply do not match, in movements, space etc. Only Nix shows what happened! Also can you comment on the briefing board. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

Only Nix shows Mary in the street.

Nix doesn't show Moorman stood in the street.
The grass slopes down to the road.
In the pic below notice you can only see half of the motorcycle wheel (pointed out by red arrow) It's because of the way the grass slopes down.



That's why Summers looks like he's sat in the road and why you can't see Altgens' feet when you watch the film.

Nix shows Toni Foster in her raincoat, but Muchmore shows the Babushka Lady!

Foster doesn't appear in Muchmore, she's not in a position to appear in the film.
If you look at Zapruder you can see how far away she is from the road.
There is literally no mystery here.

Also can you comment on the briefing board

I can't think of anything worth commenting on.
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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2023, 10:49:45 PM »
Hi Royell, Yes, this would be a briefing board done on November 24th, 1963, when the Zapruder film was altered. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

Every attempt you have made to present alterations in the film have been blown out of the water.
Just out of interest, what exactly do you believe was altered in the Z-film and why was it altered. That question goes for Royell.

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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2023, 11:37:10 PM »
Only Nix shows Mary in the street.

Nix doesn't show Moorman stood in the street.
The grass slopes down to the road.
In the pic below notice you can only see half of the motorcycle wheel (pointed out by red arrow) It's because of the way the grass slopes down.



That's why Summers looks like he's sat in the road and why you can't see Altgens' feet when you watch the film.

Nix shows Toni Foster in her raincoat, but Muchmore shows the Babushka Lady!

Foster doesn't appear in Muchmore, she's not in a position to appear in the film.
If you look at Zapruder you can see how far away she is from the road.
There is literally no mystery here.

Also can you comment on the briefing board

I can't think of anything worth commenting on.

Hi Dan, No, B. J. Martin's motorcycle's wheel is in the street! The curb blocks seeing all of the wheel; just like it cuts down Mary Moorman's size---because she is standing in the street. Ike Altgens' shoes are blocked by the grass turf. I am saying the Zapruder film was altered to keep SSA William Greer out of trouble! If JFK's usual driver who died I think on October 14th, 1963, had driven, JFK probably would have survived. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael
   


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Re: Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2023, 12:02:20 AM »
Hi Dan, No, B. J. Martin's motorcycle's wheel is in the street! The curb blocks seeing all of the wheel; just like it cuts down Mary Moorman's size---because she is standing in the street. Ike Altgens' shoes are blocked by the grass turf. I am saying the Zapruder film was altered to keep SSA William Greer out of trouble! If JFK's usual driver who died I think on October 14th, 1963, had driven, JFK probably would have survived. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael
   


Ike Altgens' shoes are blocked by the grass turf

So are Moorman's  ::)

I am saying the Zapruder film was altered to keep SSA William Greer out of trouble!

The Z-film shows the limo slowing down to almost walking pace just before the head shot, it's just really difficult to see.
Nix also shows the limo drastically slowing down then speeding away.
The Bronson film also shows the limo slowing down. The follow-up car almost runs into the back of it and the motorcycles end up almost alongside it.
There was no way to hide the fact the limo slowed right down before the head shot, so no need to alter anything.

It is notable that Greer lied about this in his WC testimony, insisting he kept a steady speed during the shooting.
It is also notable he "forgot" he was looking at JFK when his head exploded, as shown in the Z-film.
Greer's testimony is a joke, he can barely remember anything, answering "don't know" to almost everything. He insists he was focused on the top of the underpass as he approached it and saw no-one up there:



Hmmmm.....


Greer lied in his testimony

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