Josiah Thompson - Who Was the Umbrella Man?

[Dan O'meara]

     Your admittedly being unaware of the history of the Wiegman Film immediately DQ's you from further discussing anything connected to it. Do your homework. Bone-up on the Wiegman Film. Gary Mack himself issued a Mea Culpa with regard to his furthering the Wiegman "continuous" issue. This is a major problem when discussing anything connected to the JFK Assassination. People are trumpeting uneducated positions/opinions. We currently have a couple of generations getting up-to-speed on exactly what has gone down  over the last 60 yrs with regard to the assassination of JFK. People such as yourself need to slow your roll and instead  further your knowledge on this subject. All you are accidentally doing is poisoning the well of these current generations that are looking for JFK Assassination FACTS.
      People such as yourself take for granted that is Wiegman on the Bell Film due to the guy wearing a hat. Neither Zapruder or Wiegman ever verified seeing each other immediately following the assassination, yet the Bell Film shows these alleged 2 individuals almost close enough to shake hands. It is this reckless manner of ID'ing people on assassination films/images which has led to the ongoing state of JFK Assassination confusion. And while we are on the subject of assigning valid ID's to eyewitnesses of the assassination, Emmitt Hudson is the only person to ever ID Emmitt Hudson as standing/sitting on The Steps. The ID of Hudson should be treated just like the ID of Bev Oliver = Babushka Woman.

Do your homework

I don't need to do my "homework", Royell, as you are going to do it for me.
You are the one making unsubstantiated claims, not me.
You can cite exactly where you are getting your claim from that the Weigman film was heralded as being "continuous".
You can also cite exactly where this unsubstantiated claim has been proven wrong.
In fact, you can reproduce the passage from where you are getting this unsubstantiated claim from.
That's how things work around here, Royell - you, obviously haven't noticed.
Until you produce support for your claims they will be treated exactly for what they are - unsubstantiated, unfounded, baseless.

People are trumpeting uneducated positions/opinions.

As I am DQ'd from talking about what I see with my own eyes, according to you, maybe you can clarify a couple of things.

1) Is the Presidential limo shown in Weigman before it reaches the underpass?
2) Do you agree this is less than 6 seconds after the head shot, something we know from watching the Z-film?

I'd like you to answer these questions as I will be pressing for an answer.

People such as yourself take for granted that is Wiegman on the Bell Film due to the guy wearing a hat.

And people such as yourself like to go on about how clued up you are about this case and then make comments such as this which reveal a weak grasp of the evidence.
After leaving his vehicle, Weigman races towards the pergola and takes up a position where he films the Hesters lying on the grass. It's quite famous footage. The way to identify Weigman in Bell is not by his hat [ ] but by his position as he films the Hesters:



The pic above is taken approximately 10 seconds after Bell has filmed the limo reaching the underpass.

3) Do you agree the Bell pic above shows Weigman in position, filming the Hesters?

Neither Zapruder or Wiegman ever verified seeing each other immediately following the assassination, yet the Bell Film shows these alleged 2 individuals almost close enough to shake hands

This is such a ridiculous point to make it's hard to know whether you are serious or not. I've been around long enough to know that this kind of statement reveals someone who is so desperate to make a point they will say almost anything.

Emmitt Hudson is the only person to ever ID Emmitt Hudson as standing/sitting on The Steps. The ID of Hudson should be treated just like the ID of Bev Oliver = Babushka Woman

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about Hudson which is irrelevant as far as this discussion is concerned.
Who ID'd Malcolm Summers other than Malcolm Summers? Who ID'd A J Millican other than A J Millican? And I would be willing to bet there are dozens more witnesses at Dealey Plaza who are ID'd only by themselves.
Again, I've been around long enough to know you have some half-baked theory involving Hudson which is why you keep picking out his self-identification as something unusual while ignoring the many others this also applies to.

You talk as if you are some kind of font of wisdom regarding this case.
So let's see what you've got.

1) Is the Presidential limo shown in Weigman before it reaches the underpass?
2) Do you agree this is less than 6 seconds after the head shot, something we know from watching the Z-film?
3) Do you agree the Bell pic above shows Weigman in position, filming the Hesters?

[Dan O'meara]

This is an excellent video synchronising various assassination films.
There is no need to look beyond the Zavada Report regarding the authenticity of the Z-film, but works like this demonstrate how the various films are interlocked. By itself it demolishes any notion of alteration.

[Michael Welch]

This is an excellent video synchronising various assassination films.
There is no need to look beyond the Zavada Report regarding the authenticity of the Z-film, but works like this demonstrate how the various films are interlocked. By itself it demolishes any notion of alteration.

Hi Dan, In your video clip above, do not press play. What is wrong with this picture? Only Nix is correct! Mary Moorman is much shorter on the street taking her famous picture like she said she did. Perhaps you will finally comment about Gerda the Great's gif, where the Nix film does not match the Zapruder film concering Clint's and Jackie's interaction on the limo's trunk! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

[Royell Storing]

   DAN -  You're obviously unfamiliar with all the history behind the Wiegman Film. Your challenging it being originally pushed as being "continuous", makes it clear that you are not even familiar with the letter that Gary Mack wrote taking "back water" on this very issue. You're also unaware of the details of the Brugioni Briefing Boards, his Notes for those briefing boards he prepared, and the differences he detailed between the Z Film he examined vs the Current Z Film. You wanna go with Zavada, but we can not be sure that Zavada and Brugioni examined the exact same film. Your current foundation pertaining to all of these issues consists of sand. Do some serious research and get down to the bedrock. There are many issues I would enjoy discussing with you once you put in the time and get up-to-speed.       

[Michael Welch]

Hi Dan and Royell, I hope that you both are doing well! Can you both comment on this briefing board? Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

[Dan O'meara]

Hi Dan, In your video clip above, do not press play. What is wrong with this picture? Only Nix is correct! Mary Moorman is much shorter on the street taking her famous picture like she said she did. Perhaps you will finally comment about Gerda the Great's gif, where the Nix film does not match the Zapruder film concering Clint's and Jackie's interaction on the limo's trunk! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

Hi Michael, do you mean the video I posted won't play. I'm not sure what to say as it works for me.
As for the Gerda gif, Hill's movements are perfectly in synch in both clips as are Jackies. Both clips are perfectly synched.
Do you mean that Hill and Jackie seem a lot closer together in the Nix clip than the Zapruder one?

[Dan O'meara]

   DAN -  You're obviously unfamiliar with all the history behind the Wiegman Film. Your challenging it being originally pushed as being "continuous", makes it clear that you are not even familiar with the letter that Gary Mack wrote taking "back water" on this very issue. You're also unaware of the details of the Brugioni Briefing Boards, his Notes for those briefing boards he prepared, and the differences he detailed between the Z Film he examined vs the Current Z Film. You wanna go with Zavada, but we can not be sure that Zavada and Brugioni examined the exact same film. Your current foundation pertaining to all of these issues consists of sand. Do some serious research and get down to the bedrock. There are many issues I would enjoy discussing with you once you put in the time and get up-to-speed.       

Hi Royell,
the citations please and an answer to the three questions if you don't mind.
Thanks.