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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2023, 05:21:03 AM »
Ok, but that’s begging the question. You could just as easily say that can’t be Lovelady walking down the street because Lovelady is still on the steps. The Couch film is black and white so you can’t actually see a red shirt.

Hi John, You can tell the difference in black and white film of a plaid shirt versus a white shirt versus a brown suit. Here is Altgens 6:



You can tell that Lovelady letter F is wearing a plaid shirt; you can tell that letter E Shelley is wearing a brown suit; and you can tell that Molina
letter A is wearing a white shirt. I cannot find them in Darnell. I am confident that they --- Shelley and Lovelady are walking together down the Elm Street Extension. If you can, please point them out in Darnell. Thank you for your reply like normal! Sincerely yours, Michael



In this Couch frame Shelley looks like he is wearing a brown suit not a black one. Lovelady you cannot make out the plaid, but it is not white.


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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2023, 06:20:11 AM »
In this Couch frame Shelley looks like he is wearing a brown suit not a black one. Lovelady you cannot make out the plaid, but it is not white.

That’s a pretty weak basis for assuming these two figures are Shelley and Lovelady, IMO.

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2023, 06:37:07 AM »
That’s a pretty weak basis for assuming these two figures are Shelley and Lovelady, IMO.

Hi John. It is not my basis. You can see two guys together. Do they physically look like Shelley and Lovelady. Yes. One on the left has Shelley's elaborate hairstyle. One on the right has Lovelady's round head. They are at the right place at the right time. To me it is more than enough. Thank you for your reply! Sincerely yours, Michael

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2023, 06:42:23 AM »
Hi Everybody, I should have said earlier that my point of identifying as many people as possible in the Darnell frame is the women such as Sarah Stanton are on the TSBD steps at the same time as Prayer Man, but in different places. Sincerely yours, Michael

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2023, 10:09:44 AM »
Hi John. It is not my basis. You can see two guys together. Do they physically look like Shelley and Lovelady. Yes. One on the left has Shelley's elaborate hairstyle. One on the right has Lovelady's round head. They are at the right place at the right time. To me it is more than enough. Thank you for your reply! Sincerely yours, Michael

If you watch the actual clip you've taken your frame from it seems pretty clear these men are not walking together.
One man overtakes the other and pulls away from him quite quickly.
IMO one of these men looks more like Danny Arce than Shelley

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2023, 10:47:18 AM »
If you watch the actual clip you've taken your frame from it seems pretty clear these men are not walking together.
One man overtakes the other and pulls away from him quite quickly.
IMO one of these men looks more like Danny Arce than Shelley

Hi Dan, I hope you are doing well. Can you please supply the clip. I cannot find Gerda's. I just went frame by frame in Duncan's and Robin's fantastic photo gallery and saw them together until they disappeared out of sight. In the Darnell frame, do you still see Shelley and Lovelady? If so, can you please point them out. Thank you for your reply! Sincerely yours, Michael



I just went through the frames again, in this frame they are about to meet a lady, Gloria Calvery, they talk for awhile, then she continues on towards the entrance of the TSBD.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2023, 02:33:11 PM »
Hi John. It is not my basis. You can see two guys together. Do they physically look like Shelley and Lovelady. Yes.

I think they physically look like indistinct blurs. And I agree with Dan, they don’t even appear to be walking together. Furthermore, Shelley said he stopped at the island for a minute and was there when he saw the policeman running to the steps. Your “Shelley” isn’t on the island or looking at the running policeman.