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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2023, 02:42:54 PM »
I think they physically look like indistinct blurs. And I agree with Dan, they don’t even appear to be walking together. Furthermore, Shelley said he stopped at the island for a minute and was there when he saw the policeman running to the steps. Your “Shelley” isn’t on the island or looking at the running policeman.


Hi John, People say a lot of things they think they did. Detectives Senkel and Brown actually wrote that they drove Shelley, Arce, and Bonnie Ray Williams to the sheriff's department. They did not. I am comfortable with my analysis of blurry images. That is usually all we have to work with. Have you found Shelley and Lovelady in Darnell? Thank you for your reply! Sincerely yours, Michael
 

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2023, 04:53:46 PM »
Hi John, People say a lot of things they think they did.

I agree, but you have to consider all available evidence rather than jumping to what you think a blurry “hairstyle” resembles. This “Lovelady” seems to have short sleeves.

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #58 on: September 13, 2023, 05:10:13 PM »
I agree, but you have to consider all available evidence rather than jumping to what you think a blurry “hairstyle” resembles. This “Lovelady” seems to have short sleeves.

Hi John, It is usually going to be more than this. First, you have Gerda identifying them. They physically look like Shelley and Lovelady. Then one wears brown; one wears possibly plaid. They are at the right place at the right time. They run into apparently Gloria Calvery. This is all on film. Have you found Shelley and Lovelady anywhere else? Thank you for your help! Sincerely yours, Michael

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #59 on: September 13, 2023, 05:40:10 PM »
Hi John, It is usually going to be more than this. First, you have Gerda identifying them. They physically look like Shelley and Lovelady. Then one wears brown; one wears possibly plaid. They are at the right place at the right time. They run into apparently Gloria Calvery. This is all on film. Have you found Shelley and Lovelady anywhere else? Thank you for your help! Sincerely yours, Michael

Hi Michael, I'm not in the habit of "finding" people in blurry images based on insufficient data.  I have a lot of respect for Gerda, but she didn't have any more evidence than you do.

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2023, 05:50:24 PM »
Hi Michael, I'm not in the habit of "finding" people in blurry images based on insufficient data.  I have a lot of respect for Gerda, but she didn't have any more evidence than you do.

Hi John, Please provide their location. Otherwise, what are you really accomplishing? Thank you for your input! Sincerely yours, Michael


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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2023, 06:20:59 PM »
Hi Brian, I hope you are doing well. I was sorry to read about the loss of your mother and your hurricane damage.
Here in the Darnell frame we have Prayer Man in his usual place and Sarah Stanton's face in the bottom left hand corner of the yellow rectangle. She is to Frazier's and Molina's bottom left. Thank you for your input! Sincerely yours, Michael




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Hi Brian, I hope you are doing well. I was sorry to read about the loss of your mother and your hurricane damage.
Here in the Darnell frame we have Prayer Man in his usual place and Sarah Stanton's face in the bottom left hand corner of the yellow rectangle. She is to Frazier's and Molina's bottom left. Thank you for your input! Sincerely yours, Michael


    The woman you are outlining is Pauline Sanders...That woman is to Frazier's left exactly as Sanders described...Sanders said she was to the east of the door and back against the glass divider and that is exactly where the woman you outlined was...That woman cannot be Stanton because her position allows her to see the limousine at the time of the shots...Stanton said she could not see the limousine at the time of the shots...One look at Prayer Man shows the west wall of the portal blocking Prayer Man's view of the limousine...

   You have no right to ignore my repeated (typed thousands of times) presentation that Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton's 5 foot 4 height exactly...You can see this in comparison to Frazier in Darnell where Prayer Man comes up to Frazier's chin making Prayer Man Stanton's exact 5 foot 4 height...Murphy and the Prayer Man mob hijacked the JFK internet and deliberately avoided a simple height comparison and the research community fell for it...Thanks to Morissette, you can now see it in Owens where photogrammetry would match Stanton's height and features exactly to Prayer Man...Owens also shows an exact dress sleeve match...It's a cute post Mr Welch, but it doesn't answer any of the main damning evidence I've posted...Stancak found Sanders in Altgens 6 in between Lovelady & Shelley...Sanders is actually in the same position she is in the Darnell frame you link only Altgens' telephoto lens makes her look like she is standing in between them...Since there were only two women on the top platform, that forces Prayer Man to be Stanton (the person whom Davidson found Stanton's face on)...

  I've also noted that although every speck I type is held to extreme scrutiny, that Mr Welch's image shows a person with dark hair...So even though Mr Welch is alleging that woman is Stanton, I see none of the usual suspects coming in and attacking him for showing a putative Stanton with dark hair...That accusation is only reserved for me and is never applied to anyone else even though they are supposedly committing the same violation...What that tells you is the people making it don't really believe it and just use it as a dishonest wrench in the works...So Mr Welch has proven me correct one way or the other and my enemies have been hung by their own petard that they are not honest enough to answer or admit...I have basically taken on the entire JFK internet, had both hands tied behind my back with unfair banning, and still soundly beaten them...I'll tell you that it is a good feeling from my end to beat the Prayer Man mob while they think they are getting away with ignoring you...


Hi Brian, The lady has gray hair. Pauline Sanders is behind her to the left of Frazier on the very top in the East corner. Prayer Man remains in place. Thank you for your input! Sincerely yours, Michael

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2023, 06:26:46 PM »
Hi John, Please provide their location. Otherwise, what are you really accomplishing?

Reality. A wild guess stated with confidence is still a wild guess.