Hoover-Johnson Transcript 11/23/63

[Walt Cakebread]

six weeks prior to the assassination the CIA station in Mexico City observed Oswald visiting the Soviet embassy in the Mexican capital."

They took a photo of the man calling himself Oswald..... Right?   

[Richard Smith]

six weeks prior to the assassination the CIA station in Mexico City observed Oswald visiting the Soviet embassy in the Mexican capital."

They took a photo of the man calling himself Oswald..... Right?

If the CIA were involved in framing Oswald for this crime and contrived a fake Oswald Mexico City visit for some inexplicable reason (i.e. it was not necessary to frame Oswald for the JFK assassination to have him travel to Mexico City months beforehand), then why would they then release a picture of someone who obviously isn't Oswald after the fact?  HA HA HA.  Why not have a crystal-clear picture of Ozzie posing at the entrance if the trip was faked by the CIA?  Whew.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

six weeks prior to the assassination the CIA station in Mexico City observed Oswald visiting the Soviet embassy in the Mexican capital."

They took a photo of the man calling himself Oswald..... Right?

There is no evidence the man in the photo called himself Oswald. How would the CIA know what the man called himself to the Soviets? Only the people in the Embassy he met would know what he called himself.

And what did they say? The three KGB agents/Embassy officers who met the man who said he was Oswald said that man was the Oswald arrested for the assassination. One of them - Oleg Nechiporenko - said the man in the photo was a US Air Force officer who offered to sell secrets to the Soviets. He did not identify himself as Oswald.

The Soviets knew what the real Oswald looked like. He had lived there for several years; they had his photo. So this person - who looks nothing like Oswald - shows up and asks for a visa? He has to give a photo. So he gives a photo of himself, the Soviets check on the real Oswald and immediately discover it's an impostor. And why would the Soviets go along with this charade? If they knew the person wasn't Oswald wouldn't they announce that to the world? They blamed the CIA for the assassination. They could say this impersonation was part of the conspiracy.

It's completely in the interests of the Soviet to expose this supposed impersonation. But they didn't. Same for the Cubans.

[Walt Cakebread]

There is no evidence the man in the photo called himself Oswald. How would the CIA know what the man called himself to the Soviets? Only the people in the Embassy he met would know what he called himself.

And what did they say? The three KGB agents/Embassy officers who met the man who said he was Oswald said that man was the Oswald arrested for the assassination. One of them - Oleg Nechiporenko - said the man in the photo was a US Air Force officer who offered to sell secrets to the Soviets. He did not identify himself as Oswald.

 How would the CIA know what the man called himself to the Soviets?

You're exposing your ignorance...... The Americans had he Sovietsa lines tapped.....And they heard the man....I gues you in your ignorance never heard Hoover tell JFK that the man's voice was different....


Only the people in the Embassy he met would know what he called himself.

See above

Now back to the question......  Please present verification that LBJ was told about Lee Oswald in Mexico PRIOT to the telephone conversation with Hoover.

[John Iacoletti]

If the CIA were involved in framing Oswald for this crime and contrived a fake Oswald Mexico City visit for some inexplicable reason (i.e. it was not necessary to frame Oswald for the JFK assassination to have him travel to Mexico City months beforehand), then why would they then release a picture of someone who obviously isn't Oswald after the fact?  HA HA HA.  Why not have a crystal-clear picture of Ozzie posing at the entrance if the trip was faked by the CIA?  Whew.

The usual having it both ways argument. If the picture was of Oswald then Oswald was there. If the picture is not Oswald, well, conspirators would have made sure they had a picture of Oswald, therefore Oswald was there.

[Mitch Todd]

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Now back to the question......  Please present verification that LBJ was told about Lee Oswald in Mexico PRIOT to the telephone conversation with Hoover.

LBJ says it himself in the Hoover call: "Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?"

Do you even know what you're arguing any more, Walt?

[Walt Cakebread]

LBJ says it himself in the Hoover call: "Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?"

Do you even know what you're arguing any more, Walt?

LBJ says it himself in the Hoover call: "Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?"


BINGO!!..... HOW did LBJ know about Mexico City?    And why would he raise the subject....By the time of the telephone call the decision had already been made to back away from trying to show that Lee was a Soviet agent....    LBJ was afraid of a nuclear war.....