Hoover-Johnson Transcript 11/23/63

[John Mytton]

And finally, the only way Oswald is tied to the MC rifle is by the flawed opinion of an FBI expert who claimed that Oswald wrote the order note for Kleins' in Chicago which, in the bigger scheme of things, proves absolutely nothing even if it was true.

The envelope was addressed to Oswald's PO Box. Ouch!

Also, besides Oswald himself who would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias, why would any conspirator add an extra redundant step of using an alias? It's simply logical to just forge Oswald's real name and avoid any unnecessary complications. I can't recall in any criminal case in Earth's History that a conspirator would set up their patsy with a name that wasn't their actual patsy's name and then have to rely on some "flawed" opinion? Does that even make sense?



JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

The envelope was addressed to Oswald's PO Box. Ouch!

Also, besides Oswald himself who would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias, why would any conspirator add an extra redundant step of using an alias? It's simply logical to just forge Oswald's real name and avoid any unnecessary complications. I can't recall in any criminal case in Earth's History that a conspirator would set up their patsy with a name that wasn't their actual patsy's name and then have to rely on some "flawed" opinion? Does that even make sense?



JohnM

The envelope was addressed to Oswald's PO Box. Ouch!

What exactly does this make anyway near conclusive?

Also, besides Oswald himself who would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias,

Oswald carrying a fake Hidell ID, used to order the revolver and rifle, while committing the crimes, means he wanted to distance himself from the weapons used? Are you for real?

why would any conspirator add an extra redundant step of using an alias?

Well, this is just a wild guess of course, but perhaps they did it to frame Oswald? Could that be?

It's simply logical to just forge Oswald's real name and avoid any unnecessary complications.

What complications would that be?

I can't recall in any criminal case in Earth's History that a conspirator would set up their patsy with a name that wasn't their actual patsy's name and then have to rely on some "flawed" opinion? Does that even make sense?


Yes, when the investigation is being controlled by the conspirators. Is that so difficult to understand? Maybe it's just a brilliant move, that most people simply don't have the brain capacity to process.

[John Mytton]

Oswald carrying a fake Hidell ID,

Nice, so you agree that Oswald was carrying the fake Hidell identification. That's progress!

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Nice, so you agree that Oswald was carrying the fake Hidell identification. That's progress!

JohnM

You shouldn't comment on something you don't understand. It's the narrative that Oswald carried a fake Hidell ID.
My comment showed that even the narrative contradicted your silly claim that Oswald "would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias".

Next time try to reach a little bit higher level of discussion instead of just making childish comments.

Btw, it's duly noted that you are unable to respond to the rest of my post.   

[John Mytton]

You shouldn't comment on something you don't understand. It's the narrative that Oswald carried a fake Hidell ID.
My comment showed that even the narrative contradicted your silly claim that Oswald "would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias".

Next time try to reach a little bit higher level of discussion instead of just making childish comments.

Btw, it's duly noted that you are unable to respond to the rest of my post.   

It's the narrative that Oswald carried a fake Hidell ID.

It's a fact, the Hidell identification was in Oswald's wallet.

My comment showed that even the narrative contradicted your silly claim that Oswald "would want to distance himself from the rifle purchase by using an alias".

Slow down Cowboy, Oswald bought the rifle in March just before he attempted to murder General Walker and clearly Oswald used the Hidell alias to hide his true identity for that attempt. Oswald carrying the Hidell identification eight months later could have been for a multitude of reasons.

Btw, it's duly noted that you are unable to respond to the rest of my post.

The rest was just gibberish and your usual insults, which btw are getting more aggressive as the years pass. Lighten up, there's more to life than being perpetually angry.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

It's a fact, the Hidell identification was in Oswald's wallet.

Slow down Cowboy, Oswald bought the rifle in March just before he attempted to murder General Walker and clearly Oswald used the Hidell alias to hide his true identity for that attempt. Oswald carrying the Hidell identification eight months later could have been for a multitude of reasons.

The rest was just gibberish and your usual insults, which btw are getting more aggressive as the years pass. Lighten up, there's more to life than being perpetually angry.

JohnM

It's a fact, the Hidell identification was in Oswald's wallet.

Really? That must have come as a surprise to Paul Bentley who took the wallet from Oswald and never mentioned (not even is his report of 12/03/63) that it contained a Hidell ID.
Perhaps that's the reason they never asked him to testify... what do you think?

Oswald bought the rifle in March just before he attempted to murder General Walker and clearly Oswald used the Hidell alias to hide his true identity for that attempt.

Really? Where is the proof that Oswald "bought the rifle"? And what is so "clear" about Oswald using the Hidell alias to hide his true identity? Are you sure you have got this the right way around?

Oswald allegedly ordered the rifle under the alias Hidell, so it wouldn't really make sense to use the Hidell alias "to hide his true identity" as that fake ID would tie him to the rifle in the same way it did in the Kennedy murder. You really need to think stuff like this through because you are not making any sense.

Oswald carrying the Hidell identification eight months later could have been for a multitude of reasons.

Really? You just can't name one, right?   

[John Iacoletti]

It's a fact, the Hidell identification was in Oswald's wallet.

Slow down Cowboy, Oswald bought the rifle in March just before he attempted to murder General Walker and clearly Oswald used the Hidell alias to hide his true identity for that attempt. Oswald carrying the Hidell identification eight months later could have been for a multitude of reasons.

The rest was just gibberish and your usual insults, which btw are getting more aggressive as the years pass. Lighten up, there's more to life than being perpetually angry.

“Fact”. LOL

“Bought the rifle”. LOL.

“Attempted to murder General Walker”. LOL.

“Used the Hidell alias”. LOL.