Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie

[Jack Nessan]

Wait-----------before I laugh out loud, Mr Nessan, I want to make 100% sure I'm laughing at the right thing.

Are you suggesting that the Stroud letter is completely fabricated?

Everyone lying is a conspiracist phobia. Mistaken, the math doesn't work. I am sure she believed every word.

[Jack Nessan]

You're going to need a whole lot more than that one little easily-writable word to convict Ms Adams of being a liar

No I don't. Plain to see.

[Jack Nessan]

No----------you are confusing the words you imagine Mr Holmes spoke as being the words Mr Holmes actually spoke.

Here, to help you again, are the latter:

Mr. HOLMES. First floor. The front entrance to the first floor.

P.S. You are also confusing 'Holme' with 'Holmes' and 'recant' with 'recount' 

No, You are confusing Holme's recanting of LHO's words as being Holme's words.

[Jack Nessan]

Thank you for reminding us that neither Mr Lovelady nor Mr Shelley were willing to swear to seeing Ms Adams or Ms Styles on the first floor! 

Ms Styles has repeatedly backed up Ms Adams on this issue: no Shelley/Lovelady

So literally all you have by way of evidence for your allegation that Ms Adams was a shameless liar is this:



Good luck! 

Adam's saw them. Shelley and Lovelady were where they said they were.

Quite a double standard. LHO saw Jarman and Norman but Norman and Jarman did not see LHO but you don't have a problem with that statement. Isn't this the first part of:

A Ford: "Mr Oswald's story, in short, did not change one iota between the story he told in his first interrogation Friday afternoon and the story he told in his final interrogation Sunday morning."

Are you ever going to reconcile the Holmes statement with Fritz's to prove your point?

[John Iacoletti]

The decision on who to incriminate could have been made after the fact. Anybody could have been “A Hidell”.

[John Iacoletti]

The idea that it was decided, after the event, to set up Oswald without any pre-planning is seriously undermined by the Backyard Photos (which have been authenticated). They show Oswald holding a rifle indistinguishable from the rifle Tom Alyea filmed being removed from it's hiding place on the 6th floor.

“Indistinguishable” is pretty meaningless when there’s nothing distinctive in the available images.

Besides, we can’t know for a fact that this Carcano rifle was involved in the assassination at all, much less who was in involved in getting it there.

[Alan Ford]

If it was planted there to incriminate Oswald that would prove that the conspirators had already designated him as the patsy. That wouldn't fit the argument here about that being decided after the assassination.

That wasn't my argument, Mr Hawthorn. I'm arguing that Mr Oswald was not set up as sixth-floor gunman by those who planned the assassination. He may well have been set up as an accomplice. Heck, he may well have been an accomplice. We just don't know.

What I am very confident of is that he was telling the truth when he claimed to have gone outside to watch the P. Parade. It's the reason his claim was buried by the 'investigating' authorities!